The "let's convince BigBriar to build a moog poly" thread.

[Sensorychaos]

Perhaps with a little chance...with a LOT of replies and enthusiasm about this thread...BigBriar could see how people here (and out there) really would jump immediately on a moog poly...(6 voices?)...I mean I think it would be a best seller...It would be fantastic. Just imagine.
Don't tell me i'm a dreamer....we all want it!!! Let's do something about it.
This forum is really serious and helpful...all curious serious musicians are here...and bigbriar is watching us...

Let's enter the utopia madness.

[hmmm]

1rd

[Demokid]

As long as it sounds more like a Prophet~5 or OB-X then Memorymoog+ which I didn't like very much.

[SWAN808]

I would be interested in a simple, affordable moog analogue Polysynth eg Phatty-Polly...4 voice for $2k...

[mono-poly]

Affordable, Moog, Polysynth.
One word doesn't fit in the row.

[Acid Mitch]

Give them the cash for development and manufacturing and I'm sure they'll get to work on it ASAP.

[Bio]

Can't see how Jomox or others can have the cash and not Moog, the biggest analog synth seller.

[Yoozer]

Jomox made an incredibly small batch, PCBs were packed with crazy density (big risk if you have to fix it, and probably more that can go wrong when you want to perform live) - and the OS that only got truly fixed after a lot of years.

You want to flush Moog's reputation like that?

[Rude Talk]

make it happen

[BM0]

I thought this was going to be some resurrected thread from 10 years ago.

[kosmasepsilon]

Originally Posted by mono-poly

Affordable, Moog, Polysynth.
One word doesn't fit in the row.

Affordable & Moog = not polysynth
Affordable & Polysynth = not Moog
Moog & Polysynth = not affordable...

Reminds me of an anecdote about Greeks:

"When God created humans, he decided to give 2 virtues to each nationality.
So, he made Englishmen to be persistent & studious, the Japanese industrious & patient, the French cultured & refined, the Spanish playful & friendly and when he came to Greeks, he accidentally gave them three: to be smart, honest and work in public for the government.
After the creation of humans, the saints gathered and told God that he made the mistake with Greeks. Sadly God said, too bad, I already gave them the virtues. Only thing I can change now is that each Greek can have only 2 out of the 3 at one time.
So, if a Greek is smart & honest he doesn't work for the government. If he is smart and works for the government he is not honest and if he is honest and works for the government, then he's not smart."

[Acid Mitch]

lol

[Acid Mitch]

Originally Posted by Bio

Can't see how Jomox or others can have the cash and not Moog, the biggest analog synth seller.

Rumor has it that the Sunsyn almost made Jomox bankrupt, which would explain why they are not in constant production .

I dont think Moog would want to risk bankrupcy.

[Acid Mitch]

Originally Posted by BM0

I thought this was going to be some resurrected thread from 10 years ago.

It is 10 years old or so. It gets resurrected every 6 months.

[Acid Mitch]

Isn't there schematics available for Moog filters, Oscs, etc ?
Anyone desperate for a Poly Moog of some sort could easily pay a half decent tech to build them one.

[Bio]

Originally Posted by Acid Mitch

Rumor has it that the Sunsyn almost made Jomox bankrupt, which would explain why they are not in constant production .

I dont think Moog would want to risk bankrupcy.

Yes, but Moog is a lot bigger than Jomox. They are the biggest. They have invested a lot of cash in their new location.

And there's others : Vermona, DSI, Oberheim.

[Estin]

I can't imagine them selling very many, especially at the price they would need to charge to make it worth while. So thats like what maybe 20 people on here that want one? They would be a lot smarter to release a VA with 4 knobs as the user interface. Thats what the public buys.

[MimikOctopus]

Polyphonic little phatty? Rollypoly?

[natrixgli]

I think a more realistic situation would be for Moog to make a 1u rack version of the Slim Phatty with no control surface that can either be used to add voices to a LP, or as a computer/midi controlled module. If they could knock a couple hundred off the price by not including the control panel, that would achieve the $2000-$2500 range for 4 voices.

[Bio]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

Jomox made an incredibly small batch, PCBs were packed with crazy density (big risk if you have to fix it, and probably more that can go wrong when you want to perform live) - and the OS that only got truly fixed after a lot of years.

You want to flush Moog's reputation like that?

I don't see the point :
What about Vermona, Oberheim etc...?

And the sunsyn was a lot more complex than any moog, so....

And to me they are allready fluching their reputation with some of their choice and by selling t-shirt etc... but this is another thing...

[Acid Mitch]

Originally Posted by Bio

Yes, but Moog is a lot bigger than Jomox. They are the biggest. They have invested a lot of cash in their new location.
.

The fact they have invested in a new location means they have less to invest elsewhere. They may be bigger than Jomox butthat also means bigger running costs.
If Oberheim , DSI and Vermona polys are so good then why not get one of them instead of hoping for a Moog ?
You can have one of them now.
And as far as I know the older polyMoogs can still be purchased secondhand.

The only complaints I seem to read about new Moogs is that they dont sound like the old ones ( I like both) .Is a modern poly Moog really what people want ?

[Acid Mitch]

Originally Posted by Bio

And to me they are allready fluching their reputation with some of their choice and by selling t-shirt etc... but this is another thing...

It's obviously working for them. How else could they become "the biggest" as you say ?

[Bio]

The fact they have invested in a new location means they have less to invest elsewhere.

Yes, I agree.

They may be bigger than Jomox butthat also means bigger running costs.

Not necessarily, more product = less cost

If Oberheim , DSI and Vermona polys are so good then why not get one of them instead of hoping for a Moog ?

I'm with you, I don't care for a Moog polysynth, it's just that a lot of customer ask for...

Is a modern poly Moog really what people want ?

Yes, it seem so given the number of thread like this.

[Bio]

Originally Posted by Acid Mitch

It's obviously working for them. How else could they become "the biggest" as you say ?

Not by selling polysynth or new kind of synth, that's for sure.

I prefer the Buchla approch (for ex), most cash in the development for the customer.

[Acid Mitch]

Originally Posted by Bio

I prefer the Buchla approch (for ex), most cash in the development for the customer.

As a gearslut I agree but Buchla hasn't exactly became a household name.
Even people that aren't into synths or electronic based music know the Moog brand. Tshirts ,etc can only help that and ensure Moog are around to give support to existing customers.

[Yoozer]

Originally Posted by Bio

I don't see the point :
What about Vermona

All monophonic synths.

Oberheim etc...?

4 stacked monophonic synths.

And to me they are allready fluching their reputation with some of their choice and by selling t-shirt etc... but this is another thing...

The alternative is to have some shady guy sell copied Moog logo shirts on Cafepress - because guess what, people want to buy them - and none of that money would be flowing back to Moog. Plus, they hand their brand to someone they don't know; if said person was a dick to someone who expected but didn't receive an order, that'd indirectly tarnish their reputation.

[rockmanrock]

Vermona

Originally Posted by Yoozer

All monophonic synths.

The out of production Perfourmer must have done reasonably okay, didn't finish the company off at least!

[Yoozer]

It's probably a good idea that they never seriously tried to sell the Mephisto. 6 analog voices and all rotary pots motorized.

Looked gorgeous, though.

[clusterchord]

Originally Posted by kosmasepsilon

Affordable & Moog = not polysynth
Affordable & Polysynth = not Moog
Moog & Polysynth = not affordable...

Affordable & Moog = moog sticker, analog, but no moog sound*

Affordable & Polysynth = thin sound whatever it is

Moog & Polysynth = not interested if they use LP voice circuitry. they wont make one anyway.. they like doing 5K monosynths instead..


T.O. & "proper" Polysynth = phenomenal, wouldn't even have to be sky high expensive

by proper i mean full memory, and single set of controls - probably wont happen. atm tomoberheim.com is too small an operation to tackle cpu&adc&dca sub-system needed for preset memory. maybe DSI could develop that for him..






*applies to new moogmusic, not late70s small moogs.

[GeorgeHayduke]

Originally Posted by natrixgli

I think a more realistic situation would be for Moog to make a 1u rack version of the Slim Phatty with no control surface that can either be used to add voices to a LP,..

Interesting idea!