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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010
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Thread Starter | post your vocoder experiments
let's hear some VOCODER fun! I'd love to hear what others do vocoder wise. my two shorts are: 1. TAL UNO62 default patch into MDA TALKBOX, mono notes, then chords 2. SUPERWAVE P8 Trance Patch 3 into TAL VOCODER into TAL CHORUS 60 any tips and hints on vocoding? I tend to heavily compress the vocals to get a steady sound rather than something all over the place. Usually add EQ to taste also. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Cedarhurst, NY USA
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This is the Novation Nova vocoder, but I forgot anything else.
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| Gear interested Joined: Dec 2010
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| White Light White Heat - with vocoders!
Hey, I did a version of The Velvet's White Light White Heat with vocoded singing for a laugh. Don't take it too seriously, it's just a bit of fun: On Rails Music >It's in the little 'box' player on the right hand side. 'Enjoy'! Oli |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2008 Location: London
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I'll try some experiments from the Roland SVC-350 when I get a chance tonight. I did a setup a few years ago that was like this: Vocal -> Audio to Midi converter -> Midi to CV -> MS-20 Vocal -> Roland SVC-350 Carrier -> Korg MS-20 (pitch set by vocal). Instant Daft Punk. On a similar note, is there a modern vocoder that does something similar to the Sennheiser Vocoder VSM201 sound? Something like this: |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010
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good stuff Cramseur! couldn't find any music from your link Oli ?? would love to hear your fun grimbog. not a vocode pro here so I know nothing about the VSM201. to me it's all about the synth sound you have going in. surely more peeps are vocoding stuff? I have a Micron here I shall dig out and mess with |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Cedarhurst, NY USA
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Thanks WWJD. I sold the Nova. But the DP/4 has a vocoder preset, and I have the old alesis thing, plus a Digitech Talker pedal. None of them have been recorded yet. I'd really like a Roland SVC-350 or Korg DVP-1.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010
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Here's the ALESIS MICRON factory vocoder presets, and my lame screwing around. Radio Shack Shure 57ish mic into micron, simple multiband comp to master. I like the first, and the last preset. The rest are ugly - but may have their place somewhere.
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| Gear maniac Joined: May 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB
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not exactly vocoder "experiments" per se, but my band has vocoded vocals pretty much all of the time (aside from instrumental tunes and guest vocalists). i use an svc-350 as my primary vocoder. http://soundcloud.com/shoutoutoutoutout/03-bad-choices http://soundcloud.com/shoutoutoutoutout/remind-me-in-dark-times http://soundcloud.com/shoutoutoutoutout/guilt-trips-sink-ships |
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Excellent stuff! I like hearing it all through those songs. Good application. I sing commercial pop, but plan to add just a touch of vocoder harmonies just because I can And to slap Auto Tune in the face. ... except I guess it seems like autotune... but it is not
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Waldorf D-Coder (discontinued) on the TC Powecore PCI platform. Crappy MXL mic into a M-Audio Firewire 410 **ETA vocal is from a Howard Jones cover I did.
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2007 Location: australia
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| how does this compare to using the MS-20's external processing input to do pitch tracking?
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Stockholm/Sweden
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| Here is my vocoder experiment made in 1996. We wanted to make a track using only one sizer… we didn’t quit make it. We used a Korg VC-10 vocoder and a Yamaha CS-10 as carrier. Most of the sounds are made by the CS-10 except the chorus and strings, sync sound. We also used a Polysix and ran a JU-106 thru a CS-15. Everything is multitracked to an Atari Falcon 030 then to DAT and MD. http://www.esnips.com/doc/91f19e09-329f-4bee-b4d6-90f8275f1c53/Vision---Disconnect-Me Kind regards Demokid
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| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Philly
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man this is making me lust a vocoder, that vc-10 sounds sweet, i've been wanting an svc-350 too...i got a dp/4 although i've not messed with the vocoder too much, it's not really the same thing as something like the svc-350 or vc-10 though.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Stockholm/Sweden
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The DP/4 has a great vocoder... The key to get great vocoder speech is to use a good microphone, compressor on the modulator and the carrier should be a sound with a lot of frequencies like a sawtooth wave. The VC-10 isn’t that good on making clear vocal sounds since you can’t tweak the frequency bands. We had to work really hard with out Behringer desk back in 96. Today there are a lot of very good software vocoder’s which hare great! The Noviation Nova also have a great vocoder... |
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Thanks for posting the tunes/sounds. What are popular synth sounds going in? I've used strait single oscilator, brass, organ, strings, any sustaining keys really that have character. Other options I don't know about? I ran a heavily phases synth into both vocoder inputs a few weeks back and ended up with a faked vocoder style sound I will be using: |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Stockholm/Sweden
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Another classic use of vocoder's: 1. * Modulator: Drum loop * Carrier: Chorus, strings, pads 2. * Modulator: Vocals * Carrier: Vocals |
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cool ideas! Anyone else gonna chime in? |
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| Gear nut Joined: May 2010 Location: Montreal Quebec
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| MAM VF-11 tests YouTube - MAM VF-11 Speech Demo I posted a demo of the MAM VF-11 a few months back. These are a bunch of different synths, mono and poly patches, trying to highlight speech / legibility. |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2008 Location: London
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Ahh, finally made it back to this thread! Sorry for taking ages, but been working on this track that features the Roland SVC-350. Basically, if you listen @ 1:00 and 2:12 you'll hear it in action. Simply playing chords on the ESQ-1 with a saw pad that goes in to the unit as a carrier. I then have the singers voice going in (very low gain). In the example I use the 11th filter to make sure it retained clarity. It also uses the units chorus for subtlety. Its more of a harmony thing rather than being upfront. Don't ask about the other sounds, because blood sweat and tears went in to this over the past week. Obscuresounds - Match http://www.obscuresounds.com/audio/match-alternate.mp3 |
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awesomenessisms!
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| Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2008 Location: London
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New version for anyone interested (more melodic content)... has a solo roland vocoder section towards the end. http://www.obscuresounds.com/audio/match-new.mp3 |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Stockholm/Sweden
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What have you used as carrier?
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| Gear addict Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Music Room
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| Great thread wwjd ! I own a Roland JP8080... I haven't learned how to use the voice modulator yet. Since you brought up this exciting thread, I'm now keen and motivated to learn Robotic Vocalism all thanks to you. I've got this thread book - marked, so therefore in the near future I will post and embed something later. Also,.. very nice vocal sounds from you lot in here. I enjoyed listening ! ! ! Quote:
Wow `Awesome robotic vocalism., superjc :]
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Robotic Voc programmed on Roland G.B Hardware to EXP.8.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010
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Thread Starter | ehe way cool! sort of reminded me of Dr. WhoI still think vocoding is underrated, under used. We had enough of abused AUTO TUNE... how about lots of VOCODE in music instead? Something INTERESTING to hear? |
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| Gear addict Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Music Room
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Vocoders are very cool sound devices, for the all - round electronic music division. B` T ` W ` In your very first post, the very first Vocoding session of yours.,., totally wicked thumbsup Scooby Doo., Shooby Doo., funny and cool words ![]() Regards... | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Denver Colorado
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| http://soundcloud.com/jimstout/cruel-summer-vocoder-cover My Cruel Summer Cover using the V-Synth GT. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010
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Thread Starter | Quote:
hahahahaha! yeah, sorry, I was totally screwing around to demo vocode for a buddy of mine... figured I'd post up for fun. Recently built a "talk box" with a $20 toy Honeytone amp, a funnel and a peice of plastic tubing... doesn't work TOO well, but it works and is fun to mess with | |
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| Gear interested Joined: Nov 2010
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Heres is some vocoder use by a buddy and myself. Its a Roland vp 330+. On the bridge thingy it is 100% vocoder, but on the chorus it is a mix of vocoder and vocals. It is mostly vocoder though, just i tiny bit of vocals. We did have some problems using the vp330 though. Its difficult to get the words intelligible. I guess we need some practice in how to use your voice, but i also think the guys who know how to use it, have some tricks up their sleeve. Like how they use compression and eq. Anybody have some info to share on this subject? Thre rest of the song is of course 100% analog synths! ![]() http://soundcloud.com/bjornviggoandersen/force-of-mars-great-devices |
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