WTB: Memory-Moog LAMM

jonnypowell · 3rd December 2010

Will pay 7-8K depending on condition..

Jonny

rushton · 3rd December 2010

Have you looked in awave's second hand section. There's a plus there for 9k. It's been there a long time now he might drop it

Dirty Halo · 3rd December 2010

For my own education, why is the LAMM version so much more expensive?

And, I humbly admit, what is "LAMM?"

Thanks!

-a

Beermaster · 3rd December 2010

Lintronics Advanced Memory Moog

Rudi at Lintronics completely replaces the computer, connections and many other components and creates a new Memorymoog with up to date Midi spec and CC control of dials etc - best of all a stable reliable memory Moog - this is a custom job that takes a long time to be done and even if you own a MM in good shape the cost to have it upgraded is at least 2,000 - that's assuming you can ship your MM safely to him in Germany and back ! And wait for him to have a space in his diary to do the work

Well worth the time and money tho !

Beer

jonnypowell · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushton

Have you looked in awave's second hand section. There's a plus there for 9k. It's been there a long time now he might drop it

As much as I want one, wouldn't buy a memory-moog unless it was a LAMM version. Too many issues..

Demokid · 3rd December 2010

7-8K for a MML!! You are crazy!

Have you tested a MM or MML?

Regards
Demokid

flat earth · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

As much as I want one, wouldn't buy a memory-moog unless it was a LAMM version. Too many issues..

At this price, I would take the chance.

Nearly spat out my tea when I saw it. Someones gonna be a lucky fella.

**Don Solaris** · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by flat earth

At this price, I would take the chance.

Nearly spat out my tea when I saw it. Someones gonna be a lucky fella.

Let's buy it for 50/50. You keep it for one year - then you sell it to me and i pay you the other 50%.

rushton · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

As much as I want one, wouldn't buy a memory-moog unless it was a LAMM version. Too many issues..

I didnt realise the lamm was so much more reliable until beermasters post. Yeah i dont blame you they sound like a real pain from what i have read

Beermaster · 3rd December 2010

@JP .......

Especially as that IS a LAAM ! ! ! ! ! !

flat earth · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

Let's buy it for 50/50. You keep it for one year - then you sell it to me and i pay you the other 50%.

I suspect it was probably sold the moment the owner hit the enter key.

[will smith voice on].....Daaanngg!

jonnypowell · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demokid

7-8K for a MML!! You are crazy!

Have you tested a MM or MML?

Regards
Demokid

It would cost me about 10k to buy a memory-moog then get it shipped to Germany plus get the LAMM done.. Ten get it hippe back a well!

Yes I've heard one and they are the bomb!

Beermaster · 3rd December 2010

Just thought I'd repeat: IT IS A LAAM not just a MM on that link ! !

golden beers · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beermaster

Just thought I'd repeat: IT IS A LAAM not just a MM on that link ! !

yea i sent the guy an email as soon as i saw that. no reply, must have gone

**Don Solaris** · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by flat earth

I suspect it was probably sold the moment the owner hit the enter key.

So you didn't even contacted the guy when you saw the ad?

jonnypowell · 3rd December 2010

Gotta be a scam! I hope..

flat earth · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

So you didn't even contacted the guy when you saw the ad?

I actually saw the ad about 20 mins after it was posted. Its about 40 mins journey away.

.....but I have absolutley zero funds atm

**Don Solaris** · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

Gotta be a scam! I hope..

I did once something similar with my Jupiter 8 in the local ads - something like "old organ for sale, asking 150" and i've put a JP-8 picture. Just for fun...

Within 24 hours the mailbox was full with "i will gladly take that organ", "i will take that old keyboard", you know, carefully trying to avoid a word Jupiter 8. In fact there was just one honest guy who said "dude that is a Jupiter 8 you got there! do you know how much it's worth?".

I know it's NOT nice what i've done, but i couldn't resist...

**Don Solaris** · 3rd December 2010

Oh damn!

Jonny look what have we done out of your thread.

If you want i can remove all the offtopic.

flat earth · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

In fact there was just one honest guy who said "dude that is a Jupiter 8 you got there! do you know how much it's worth?".

Actually that may have happened here. The guy has re-advertised it today, and its gone from £1300 to £1800.

Posted 11 hrs ago

MEMORYMOOG+ Studio & Live Music Equipment for Sale london London

Jauqq · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by flat earth

Actually that may have happened here. The guy has re-advertised it today, and its gone from £1300 to £1800.

Posted 11 hrs ago

MEMORYMOOG+ Studio & Live Music Equipment for Sale london London

This new ad is worded like an Ebay ad ie "No reserve price on this auction, but I do reserve the option to end auction early as this item is for sale locally as well."

Obvious cut and paste job, but no can find on Ebay....

Jauqq · 3rd December 2010

Google search of the wording turns up this..
copied Ebay auction

jonnypowell · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

Oh damn!

Jonny look what have we done out of your thread.

If you want i can remove all the offtopic.

All good Don! Keeps the thread bumped for me!!

SWAN808 · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

Gotta be a scam! I hope..

Pretty sure that is a scam as Ive seen it before - even a year or so ago that same Ad selling a MM in St Johns Wood, London...I remember considering it myself.

Text looks 'ok' but a bit fishy why he keeps pointlessly saying MEMORYMOOG in capitals - he is making the advert keyword heavy to attract people searching thru search engines...

After some research a while back it started to appear like there was/were scammers in the UK trying to lure buyers by posting legit looking ads for famous analogue polysynths on Gumtree and Craigslist...Eg Jupiter 8 for £1200 etc...I messaged them to check and it was obviously a scam...and then found the same style of ad for Prophet 5 was around also...

golden beers · 3rd December 2010

oh noes now scammers have my email

Space Station · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushton

I didnt realise the lamm was so much more reliable until beermasters post. Yeah i dont blame you they sound like a real pain from what i have read

Its no more reliable than a plus with all the factory mods carried out. As an owner and servicer of many memorymoogs, its all relative to the version you own. And the main reliabilty mods can be carried out yourself for a fraction of the lamm cost. I would never dream of paying that amount out on one.

I was chatting with Richard of RL music only a few days ago about memorymoogs and he says after servicing over 700 synths he doesnt consider the MM to be particularly any more unreliable than any other comparible monster poly from the day. I agree 100%.

Dont belive everything you read, well at least take it with a pinch of salt anyway.

SWAN808 · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Space Station

Its no more reliable than a plus with all the factory mods carried out. As an owner and servicer of many memorymoogs, its all relative to the version you own. And the main reliabilty mods can be carried out yourself for a fraction of the lamm cost. I would never dream of paying that amount out on one.

I was chatting with Richard of RL music only a few days ago about memorymoogs and he says after servicing over 700 synths he doesnt consider the MM to be particularly any more unreliable than any other comparible monster poly from the day. I agree 100%.

Dont belive everything you read, well at least take it with a pinch of salt anyway.

Yes but as far as I know its not Richard who does the servicing but Kent Spong?...I hear so much conflicting opinions on this topic - cos I love the MM sound....one of Kents best mates is Jim from SingingCat services who worked for Moog in the 80s servicing them around the time that the MemoryMoog took them under...I was talking with Jim who is this hilarious Glaswegian (and if you ever call him prepare for 2 hours....) and he said that the complexity and over engineering of the MM was its downfall. He told me that Tom Obers design for the OB series was much more reliable and elegant....and basically not to bother with the MM...

Anyways I guess its a debatable topic...

Space Station · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWAN808

Yes but as far as I know its not Richard who does the servicing but Kent Spong?...I hear so much conflicting opinions on this topic - cos I love the MM sound....one of Kents best mates is Jim from SingingCat services who worked for Moog in the 80s servicing them around the time that the MemoryMoog took them under...I was talking with Jim who is this hilarious Glaswegian (and if you ever call him prepare for 2 hours....) and he said that the complexity and over engineering of the MM was its downfall. He told me that Tom Obers design for the OB series was much more reliable and elegant....and basically not to bother with the MM...

Anyways I guess its a debatable topic...

Of course it's not Richard, but since he's paying the bills I'm sure he knows.

Well, the OB-X's are a far, far simpler design.. but generally today..the OB-X's need a huge amount of work in restoration..full of crappy CMOS, bad solder.. as do the P5's etc..ever serviced Arp stuff? the build quality is frankly a joke. Ever seen the New Order video where they said they needed five spare prophet 5's to go on tour with such was the unreliability? And none of them worked properly!

It's all relative.

SWAN808 · 3rd December 2010

Fair enough perhaps when you take into consideration the other problematic analogues its not so bad. But seeing as the MM is a latter CEM polysynth - you'd expect it to be better designed and more reliable than a discreet OBX and more comparable to a OBXa/8...

Space Station · 3rd December 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWAN808

Fair enough perhaps when you take into consideration the other problematic analogues its not so bad. But seeing as the MM is a latter CEM polysynth - you'd expect it to be better designed and more reliable than a discreet OBX and more comparable to a OBXa/8...

The initial design wasn't good, that is for sure but a lot of these problems were ironed out with factory updates. The big autotune update was the main one and this improved the tuning problems massively.

I sold about 10 NOS autotune kits on Ebay...sadly all gone!

3rd December 2010	#1
jonnypowell Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,337 Thread Starter	WTB: Memory-Moog LAMM Will pay 7-8K depending on condition.. Jonny

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Dirty Halo Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Hollyweird Posts: 7,624	For my own education, why is the LAMM version so much more expensive? And, I humbly admit, what is "LAMM?" Thanks! -a

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Beermaster Lives for gear Joined: May 2007 Location: London Posts: 2,136	Lintronics Advanced Memory Moog Rudi at Lintronics completely replaces the computer, connections and many other components and creates a new Memorymoog with up to date Midi spec and CC control of dials etc - best of all a stable reliable memory Moog - this is a custom job that takes a long time to be done and even if you own a MM in good shape the cost to have it upgraded is at least 2,000 - that's assuming you can ship your MM safely to him in Germany and back ! And wait for him to have a space in his diary to do the work Well worth the time and money tho ! Beer

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Beermaster Lives for gear Joined: May 2007 Location: London Posts: 2,136	@JP ....... Especially as that IS a LAAM ! ! ! ! ! !

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Jauqq Gear addict Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 340	Google search of the wording turns up this.. copied Ebay auction

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golden beers Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,855 1 Review written	oh noes now scammers have my email

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SWAN808 Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,065 1 Review written	Fair enough perhaps when you take into consideration the other problematic analogues its not so bad. But seeing as the MM is a latter CEM polysynth - you'd expect it to be better designed and more reliable than a discreet OBX and more comparable to a OBXa/8...