Skrillex! I want to be Skrillex!! How do I do it?

[kcearl]

as for mastering, If you think you have the ears for it, go for it....the listening public is becoming more and more accustomed to 128 kbps MP3's that the finer points of quality may be lost anyway

Like mixing I think the use of electronic instruments make them easier to master, I think they are more predictable than acoustic instruments, especially when there are no vocals...I dont have those ears yet myself so my first album will be going to a pro mastering house..I think at te end of the day you are paying for someone elses experience rather than just software/equipment

[vivid435]

Originally Posted by scottdavidson

i will pay good money to anyone who can get me the number of the lads hairdresser

lol why do you want the hairdressers number?

[vivid435]

Originally Posted by ohmicide

He does, almost everyone now a day does their own mastering. Zedd does his own too. I do my own mastering and everyone's always all over my dick asking me what I do and what I use. All you need to do is mix through a limiter with a lot of gain. Get your shit to sound good through that and you're in business. A bit of EQ doesn't hurt either. I usually just cut form 20hz down with a 24db filter to cut what you can't hear anyways and give a bit more headroom. Not a big difference but whatever.

seen ur latest track. check out 'feed me' he does dubstep seen him live and his eps are sick. check them out for inspiration.

[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by vivid435

seen ur latest track. check out 'feed me' he does dubstep seen him live and his eps are sick. check them out for inspiration.

Love me some Feed Me / Sport

Saw em live a few months ago with SKisM, 16 bit and John B.

[miscend]

Originally Posted by whoswho?

i know this thread is super old.. but seriously i dont believe that he his work entirely from his laptop. The programming etc can be done but when it comes to his mixing and mastering and even his sound design it is not being done by him or on that laptop.

Its not impossible but i dont think the engineering and sound design is being done soley by him.

I only say this becoz the sounds are just amazing! and the mixing and mastering is probably the best iv heard for that style of dance music.

Just my 2p.

His music can only be made ITB. Those dirty distorted basslines can only be made with VA synths. There's a reason why most D&B and Dubstep is made in the box, its because the workflow is perfectly suited to that type of music.

As to mixing and mastering obviously that gets done professionally by engineers as it is with all records.

[kcearl]

you think he doesnt mix his own shit?

[Seb RIOU]

Originally Posted by whoswho?

i know this thread is super old..

C'mon buddy, it's three months !

I'm getting old

[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by miscend

As to mixing and mastering obviously that gets done professionally by engineers as it is with all records.

Originally Posted by miscend

As to mixing and mastering obviously that gets done professionally by engineers

Originally Posted by miscend

obviously that gets done professionally by engineers

Originally Posted by miscend

obviously that gets done professionally

Originally Posted by miscend

obviously

case closed

[Resonance5]

Originally Posted by ReubenTobias

Im sure not many people here will admit it, as the usual response is 'Good music is good music no matter how it is created" which is very true, however, I have to admit whether that right or wrong, I do feel a little deflated when I find out a popular artist is just using soft-synths.

Oh, and for the record, I am by no means a Skrillex fan, not in the slightest, but he does seem to be very popular so a good example for my question.

agree in everything.

Excuse me but people here seem to be a little naive at the times.

This guy is in the states where the market of music (as well as any other market) has top notch resources.

I can admit that maybe he produced his first things with laptop and soundcard but as soon as he got successful i'm sure he got flooded with gazillions of equipment.


he can say whatever he wants! like Armin van Buuren showing that he used v station on one of his tracks leads (see! armin uses V station i spend 100 bucks and get to his level) not noticing the andromeda, nl3 and all tousands of $ gear behind him.

It's a market, if he says to use only softsynths everyone will "dream" and spend money on them. Even so would be nice to know which converters he uses.


As a prove to what i say check the link, you think he went in studio with Korn and asked the engineer: "Excuse me, where can i place my Macbook pro and Mbox?". the track is extremely high end sounding, definetly not even home studio mixed


http://soundcloud.com/skrillex/narcissistic-cannibal-feat

[lostinmusic]

Originally Posted by aunshui

I think a lot of people just want to make up for their own shortcomings by reducing the talents of others to a matter of resources. It happens in every facet of life, not just music.

+1.

[ohmicide]

I'm gonna go make more awesome tracks at Starbucks while you guys continue to fight about this

[lysander]

Originally Posted by ohmicide

I'm gonna go make more awesome tracks at Starbucks while you guys continue to fight about this

That's the attitude ! I think people just got bored because there hasn't been a digital vs analaog thread for a week.

[kcearl]

i hate analogue...or is it digital, cant remember

[ohmicide]

Where's the subtractive vs additive synthesis threads?! Any wavetable h8rs out there? FM? No?

[tobias schuch]

Originally Posted by miscend

His music can only be made ITB. Those dirty distorted basslines can only be made with VA synths. There's a reason why most D&B and Dubstep is made in the box, its because the workflow is perfectly suited to that type of music.

As to mixing and mastering obviously that gets done professionally by engineers as it is with all records.

Yes, dnb/dubstep workflow is suited to itb but to say that that kind of music can only be made itb is very naive. Ever run a moog through a few distortion pedals? Instant dirt.

[krykrykry]

there's definitely something very very high quality about his mixdowns. while i don't doubt that he composes this stuff on a laptop with FM8 and some other plugins, i'm pretty sure that once he's finished a track, the stems are sent off to a top mix engineer. maybe rob swire does it...or the guy who mixes rob swires stuff...who knows.

[The Beatsmith]

doesn't anyone have a physical cd to check the mixing/mastering credits and put an end to the conjecture? or if his releases are digital only (he MUST have vinyl out!) check out some discography websites with credits on!

[ohmicide]

It's all mixed ITB by Skrilly whys that such a mindf*ck!!

[Liquid360]

I'm gonna go make more awesome tracks at Starbucks while you guys continue to fight about this

Come on ohmicide, this new track of yours better ROCK... I'm counting on you.

[jimmydeluxe]

Originally Posted by ohmicide

I'm gonna go make more awesome tracks at Starbucks while you guys continue to fight about this

Hey, like that track you have posted, but fyi it gave me a headache after 60 secs. I'm sure my ears are more sensitive than most of your constituents, but it might not hurt to back off a bit on that limiter and smooth out the 2-7k a tad. Nice work, though...

I don't/can't listen to the genre all day, but Skrill is an incredible talent--probably the first, "wtf?" moment I've had in years, maybe decades...

[zosthegoatherd]

Originally Posted by ReubenTobias

just out of interest, how do you guys feel about someone using a laptop (exclusively) to create all their music?

Does it lessen the appeal of the track once you find this out?

Im sure not many people here will admit it, as the usual response is 'Good music is good music no matter how it is created" which is very true, however, I have to admit whether that right or wrong, I do feel a little deflated when I find out a popular artist is just using soft-synths.

Oh, and for the record, I am by no means a Skrillex fan, not in the slightest, but he does seem to be very popular so a good example for my question.

I think some of it comes down to feeling like we are wasting our time obsessing over VCOs vs DCOs and discrete vs curtis (or SSM) chips while some guy with a laptop and some software is making music. I mean how many times have all of us said I will make my masterpiece when when I get some real gear. Meanwhile almost all electronic artists got big using the cheapest junk they could find while avoiding collectors items.

[Rogue Ai]

Originally Posted by The Beatsmith

doesn't anyone have a physical cd to check the mixing/mastering credits and put an end to the conjecture? or if his releases are digital only (he MUST have vinyl out!) check out some discography websites with credits on!

He doesn't master his own tracks. I have one of his cds and it says that his music in mastered by Masterpiece in London.

[ScoobyDoo555]

I'm sorry, that CAN'T be right. Gearslutz says otherwise.......

[randomguy]

Originally Posted by ohmicide

He does, almost everyone now a day does their own mastering. Zedd does his own too. I do my own mastering and everyone's always all over my dick asking me what I do and what I use. All you need to do is mix through a limiter with a lot of gain. Get your shit to sound good through that and you're in business. A bit of EQ doesn't hurt either. I usually just cut form 20hz down with a 24db filter to cut what you can't hear anyways and give a bit more headroom. Not a big difference but whatever.

can you elaborate on your mastering process? Just start mixing with a Limiter in the master bus cranked out and make it should not shity?

[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by randomguy

can you elaborate on your mastering process? Just start mixing with a Limiter in the master bus cranked out and make it should not shity?

Yep

[OhmLab]

Truth be told, there are a bunch of ways to go about doing it in both Massive and in FM8 (which Skrillex also uses) and you can find a bunch of different tutorials and walkthroughs (both written and video) over at Native Instruments Massive It is probably the most comprehensive collection of everything relating to NI Massive out there. If you still have issues getting the sound you want, message me and I'll help you out!!

Best of luck out there!

[PiTeR-aR]

Originally Posted by zosthegoatherd

I think some of it comes down to feeling like we are wasting our time obsessing over VCOs vs DCOs and discrete vs curtis (or SSM) chips while some guy with a laptop and some software is making music. I mean how many times have all of us said I will make my masterpiece when when I get some real gear. Meanwhile almost all electronic artists got big using the cheapest junk they could find while avoiding collectors items.

i agree, what's important is idea, how you will spread it using gear you have at the moment, not the gear by itself

[Yoozer]

Originally Posted by ohmicide

Now I'm releasing tracks and doing remixes and collabs with some good names.

Solution: start offering mastering services too

Originally Posted by ohmicide

It's all mixed ITB by Skrilly whys that such a mindf*ck!!

It'd be explained by people having a shitload of expensive synth but a cheap mixer, no treatment and no proper audio interface - hey, that money could be spent better on more ~*~real analogz~*~

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[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

Solution: start offering mastering services too

Not sure if that would work since the whole point of what I do is to get it right in the mix, so it'd have to be a mix/mastering service which I would charge more for and no one would want to pay cos they're cheap asses

Originally Posted by Yoozer

It'd be explained by people having a shitload of expensive synth but a cheap mixer, no treatment and no proper audio interface - hey, that money could be spent better on more ~*~real analogz~*~

( )

That reminds me of Wolfgang Gartner, not sure if he still does this but on this one video he posted a few months back he explained how he ran all his synths through a cheap mixer. It just proves how much that type of shit doesn't really matter as long as you know what the hell you're doing.

[Myrok Rolles]

Originally Posted by ohmicide

It just proves how much that type of shit doesn't really matter as long as you know what the hell you're doing.

Pffftt like that ever got anybody anywhere...