Any decent software drum SYNTH that makes analogue(ish) techno sounds??

[Simonator]

Is there a plug-in (Mac AU a STRONG preference for me... but feel free to discuss others incase anyone else reading the thread might be interested.) drum synth that does dirty analogue(ish) techno sounds?

Something along the lines of D16 Drumazon/Nepheton... except not 808/909 specific like those machines are.
I guess ideally I'd like something along the lines of the MFB sound; a bit dirty & fuzzy.

I have Ultrabeat in Logic... but it always seems a bit cold/clean/cyber.

I haven't really looked into this yet... does anything like ADM/iDrum SYNTHESIZE drum hits?
... ie, I'm NOT looking for a drum sampler... I have Battery & am very satisfied with that.
I want a synth so I have more control to manipulate the sound in real time as it's synthesized.

I have N.I. Reaktor... so recommendations for ensembles are welcome.

Cheers :-)

[arkon]

waldorf attack is nice for analog sounds and bleeps and blops and lots of realtime tweakability

no idea on apple mac support though

[genieg]

Sonic Charge - µTonic

Thisthumbsup

also a secret weapon for bass

[T.R.]

Originally Posted by genieg

Sonic Charge - µTonic

Thisthumbsup

also a secret weapon for bass

+1

And in case you are checking it out, make sure that you grab SynPlant too. Wonderful instrument.

[genieg]

Originally Posted by fenfire

+1

And in case you are checking it out, make sure that you grab SynPlant too. Wonderful instrument.

thumbsup agreed on synplant

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by genieg

thumbsup agreed on synplant

thumbsup me too! Synthplant is wonderful for synthetic percussion sounds!

[Simonator]

thanks guys thumbsup

[Simonator]

Hey,

I've also stumbled on Audio Damage Tattoo.

I could be wrong, but I get the impression that Waldorf Attack (although looking decent) appears to be an OLD prodict that is just being 'supported', whereas Tattoo & Microtonic look like very much current products... so I am making an assumption that I might get more mileage from the latter two (ie they will work further into the future on OS updates etc.)... would anyone think that is the case, or am I just raving non-sense here?

Does anyone have any opinions about Microtonic Vs Tattoo?

[cryophonik]

Linplug RMV is sorta like Battery 3 on steroids and includes a very good built-in drum synth (in addition to thousands of samples, MIDI grooves, loops, etc.).

RMV

Oh, and another +1 for MicroTonic.

[AJ Reynolds]

i didn't like any of the above but Reaktor has some really gritty drum machines. it's the sample based ones that do it for me though.

if you want something like MFB, you will have to look at analogue.

[Simonator]

Originally Posted by cryophonik

Linplug RMV is sorta like Battery 3 on steroids and includes a very good built-in drum synth (in addition to thousands of samples, MIDI grooves, loops, etc.).

RMV

Oh, and another +1 for MicroTonic.

I looked at this before... but the interface looked really fugly & cluttered. I'll have another look into it though. Cheers.

Originally Posted by AJ Reynolds

i didn't like any of the above but Reaktor has some really gritty drum machines. it's the sample based ones that do it for me though..

Okay... I'm going to hit up the NI Reaktor library now & see what's cooking.

Originally Posted by AJ Reynolds

if you want something like MFB, you will have to look at analogue.

€280 for the MFB-522 is sooo tempting.

[Acid Mitch]

How come your not making your own stuffr in Reaktor ? That's what it's all about.

I think Attack will be around for a while still. Waldorf seem to update it if there's an os change and things stop working and it is cheap as chips.

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by Simonator

Hey,

I've also stumbled on Audio Damage Tattoo.

I could be wrong, but I get the impression that Waldorf Attack (although looking decent) appears to be an OLD prodict that is just being 'supported', whereas Tattoo & Microtonic look like very much current products... so I am making an assumption that I might get more mileage from the latter two (ie they will work further into the future on OS updates etc.)... would anyone think that is the case, or am I just raving non-sense here?

Does anyone have any opinions about Microtonic Vs Tattoo?

Tattoo sucks compared to Microtonic IMO...It's lifeless...I think that mtonic has a much better engine.

Don't get into the trip of "old software"...The Waldorf Edition pack costs almost nothing, and the Attack sounds and works great!!

A good software instrument doesn't really need updates if it doesn't have noticeable bugs, sounds great and can be installed in your system...my example for this "old software support and life span" argument is Model-e...I still have it and works great with modern computers after so many years (it didn't had a great engine from the start, but you can't tell this for Attack or similar products)...

Late software updates rarely improve/change the sound of a software synth, so if you like it's sound, the most possible scenario is that you will be able to use it on newer systems for more than 15 years like having a hardware...

[Simonator]

Originally Posted by Spectral Climax

Tattoo sucks compared to Microtonic IMO...It's lifeless...I think that mtonic has a much better engine.

Don't get into the trip of "old software"...The Waldorf Edition pack costs almost nothing, and the Attack sounds and works great!!

A good software instrument doesn't really need updates if it doesn't have noticeable bugs, sounds great and can be installed in your system...my example for this "old software support and life span" argument is Model-e...I still have it and works great with modern computers after so many years (it didn't had a great engine from the start, but you can't tell this for Attack or similar products)...

Late software updates rarely improve/change the sound of a software synth, so if you like it's sound, the most possible scenario is that you will be able to use it on newer systems for more than 15 years like having a hardware...

Thanks.

Yeah, I have the impression that Microtonic looks like the cream of the crop.


I see all your points. What I mean is though it looks like Attack is ALREADY a defunct product, with Waldorf 'supporting' it (ie making updates when necessary to keep it working on new OSs)... whereas the others look more like current products that the respective companies are still very much focussed on. Of course, I could be COMPLETELY wrong in that huge assumption!!!!

[Altitude909]

Originally Posted by cryophonik

Linplug RMV is sorta like Battery 3 on steroids and includes a very good built-in drum synth (in addition to thousands of samples, MIDI grooves, loops, etc.).

RMV

+1. The analog modeled sounds are very cool and having the option to use those or sample is VERY nice.

[Oop]

Would love to hear some of the sounds from the Waldorf Attack. Any links guys?

+1 on uTonic.

Audio Damage usually make great plugins, wonder what happened with Tattoo. It's seriously lifeless and boring.

Audio Damage Axon makes some great percussive sounds, but such a pain to program, interesting sequencer though.

[ZMilos]

Reaktor ensemble NEWSCOOL thumbsup

[Lowas]

Image Line's Drummaxx, I use that for percussion sometimes, haven't tried it much for kicks.
For kicks I think Vengeance has a kick plugin too.

[rasmus]

microtonic is really cool, but to me it sound very modern and clean...
it´s really good at modern minimal/tech-house sounds. clean, deep and clicky sounds, but never got smooth oldschool tones out of it without heavy processing. it has character, a modern one.

if you like the sound of the mfb drums just get one!
you can get a small mixer and some cheap ass comps later on.
instant dirt, if you go lowend outboard

[T.R.]

Originally Posted by Lowas

Image Line's Drummaxx, I use that for percussion sometimes, haven't tried it much for kicks.
For kicks I think Vengeance has a kick plugin too.

Very cool too. Far more organic sounding than the MicroTonic, but it's neither suited for kicks nor claps. I've got to admit that since they released it, I am generating cymbals for the first time in a softsynth. You should demo MicroTonic and Drumaxx and perhaps get them both depending on your wishes.

[gentleclockdivid]

often overlooked , verry capable analogue modeled drumsynth , just like microtonic capable of pitched sounds ( polyphonic ) over multiple channels ..
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