New possible Macbeth minisynth???

[Spectral Climax]

Have you seen this? :

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It seems that he is planning to make a minisynth!!! If it has the "Macbeth sound" and is priced under $600-$700, could be a huge success over the other mini analogues in the market...it looks fantastic too!!!

[animalfarm]

reminds me of the dark energy...

I suppose the dark energy must have been quite a success, this kind of stuff surely opens the otherwise narrow market for module producers.

[SWAN808]

this could be SICK

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by animalfarm

reminds me of the dark energy...

I suppose the dark energy must have been quite a success, this kind of stuff surely opens the otherwise narrow market for module producers.

Dark energy doesn't have the warmth and the huge sound of Macbeth synths...the demos sound boring IMO. It also has only one VCO. Macbeth's prototype interface has 3!!!

[Mans]

For the non facebook people (they still exists yes) can anyone post the info here?

[rookas]

for people like






"...as well as the 5U stuff that I'm working on.....I play with the idea of designing some very small (42HP in 3U) midi driven analogue! Whay just have one oscillator and one envelope generator when you could have three oscs and two independant envelopes?!"

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by Mans

For the non facebook people (they still exists yes) can anyone post the info here?

MATRIXSYNTH: MACBETH X-SERIES MICROMAC

[Mans]

That's one sexy looking box! Hope it's not exclusively midi driven though!

[Hint]

Looks great.

What happened to the X Factor keyboard? Seemed like it was nearly ready a while back, but never appeared. Has it been cancelled and replaced by the modular stuff?

[rushton]

This looks epic

[SWAN808]

thinking about the costings of the current Macbeth Modular modules - this will likely still be fairly expensive...certainly not cheap...of course probably worth it for the sound quality - and an excellent mini modular set-up starter...imagine this plus an SEM / Kraftzwerg / Deopfer mini-case....

[RobJB06]

Nice.............
I will forever be skint...

[murphythecat87]

I would buy this is in a second
3 vco macbeth? For under a thousand???? WOW, the most exciting new of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is it like official, will he make them?

[rockmanrock]

Originally Posted by murphythecat87

I would buy this is in a second
3 vco macbeth? For under a thousand???? WOW, the most exciting new of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is it like official, will he make them?

Not sure if it's on the Facebook link above but on Muffwiggler Ken wrote that he will do a run of 100 at 995 UKP each. Metal case instead of plastic too.

[murphythecat87]

Originally Posted by rockmanrock

Not sure if it's on the Facebook link above but on Muffwiggler Ken wrote that he will do a run of 100 at 995 UKP each. Metal case instead of plastic too.

yes! When exactly?

[SWAN808]

£1000? Not so excited now...

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

£1000? Not so excited now...

Same here...

...Still sounds like a good deal compared to a SEM, but i would prefer to buy a used se-1x for this money...

[SWAN808]

Originally Posted by Spectral Climax

Same here...

...Still sounds like a good deal compared to a SEM, but i would prefer to buy a used se-1x for this money...

well the SEM has sync, an LFO and multimode filter which I think tops a 3rd Osc in terms of features and for I think £300 less? SEM has a quality tone also prob comparable to a Macbeth - but I cant be sure of that of course...
I'll have to see what the CV I/O are like as it could team up pretty well with my Kraftzwerg...but if it came would have to take the place of my Moog Source...not sure...

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

well the SEM has sync, an LFO and multimode filter which I think tops a 3rd Osc in terms of features and for I think £300 less? SEM has a quality tone also prob comparable to a Macbeth - but I cant be sure of that of course...
I'll have to see what the CV I/O are like as it could team up pretty well with my Kraftzwerg...but if it came would have to take the place of my Moog Source...not sure...

In Europe SEM costs at least 900+ euros...

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...a multimode SEM filter is a great feature, but i believe that this macbeth (if it ever gets manufactured) will have an lfo and sync too, together with a few semimodular possibilities and standard midi...so...i don't know...

[SWAN808]

Originally Posted by Spectral Climax

i believe that this macbeth (if it ever gets manufactured) will have an lfo and sync too, together with a few semimodular possibilities and standard midi...so...i don't know...

Fair point I always think of US dollar as I prob would import a SEM myself rather than pay for expensive Schnieders prices....on the Macbeth can you see those functions? It looks to me like it only has controls for 3 Osc, Osc Mixer, 24db filter and 2 ADR envelopes....hence the CV I/O....but Im still kind of guessing...

[droolmaster0]

Originally Posted by Spectral Climax

Dark energy doesn't have the warmth and the huge sound of Macbeth synths...the demos sound boring IMO. It also has only one VCO. Macbeth's prototype interface has 3!!!

You haven't used one, though. My personal opinion is that people shouldn't offer up opinions like this on synths that they've never used.

I'm quite surprised by the Dark Energy. No - it doesn't sound incredibly fat - but it sounds very good, and it's very fun to tweak and/or use with analog sequencing. I think that it really does have that vintage analog sound and aesthetic.

I really, really doubt that Ken will release a synth, no matter how small, that is going to be price competitive with the Dark Energy. I'm sure that it will have a bigger, more high end sound - but I'd also be prepared for a $2,000 price point (just a guess).

[droolmaster0]

The small synth that I'm interested in is the tinysizer...

[hogberto]

it's the least expensive way to get your hands on Macbeth oscillators and a Macbeth filter.

it's broadly comparable in cost to, say, buying a cwejman vco-2rm and MMF-6. (thinking in terms of the Macbeth in modular format rather than standalone). the cwejman combo is about £870. but then for the macbeth mini you get an extra oscillator and 2 envelopes.

different obviously so the comparison doesn't go too far. but you can see that ken is trying is make his gear more 'accessible' while keeping it at the premium end of the market.

i don't think he'll struggle to offload 100 of these somehow.

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

Fair point I always think of US dollar as I prob would import a SEM myself rather than pay for expensive Schnieders prices....on the Macbeth can you see those functions? It looks to me like it only has controls for 3 Osc, Osc Mixer, 24db filter and 2 ADR envelopes....hence the CV I/O....but Im still kind of guessing...

If you import it by yourself then you must add shipping costs and taxes...Taxes alone can make it a lot more expensive, almost like Schnieder's and the other Italian's shop prices...

You are right about the LFO, it seems to have 3 waveform knobs, 3 osc volume knobs, 3 knobs (cutoff/resonance/"vcf eq") and 2 series of "ADS" knobs. We forget something though...it might be possible to use the one osc as an lfo or do audio modulation with the provided outs...i can't figure at all their labels though...

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by droolmaster0

You haven't used one, though. My personal opinion is that people shouldn't offer up opinions like this on synths that they've never used.

I'm quite surprised by the Dark Energy. No - it doesn't sound incredibly fat - but it sounds very good, and it's very fun to tweak and/or use with analog sequencing. I think that it really does have that vintage analog sound and aesthetic.

Yes you are right, but i have used 2 modular systems by Doepfer and i wasn't impressed by their tone...their were more suitable for sound design etc...they had the basic and the advanced vco modules installed. I don't know, maybe they have tweaked the oscillator inside Dark Energy or it is based on a different design...i don't think that it's comparable in any way to a Macbeth oscillator and filter though...

[droolmaster0]

Originally Posted by Spectral Climax

Yes you are right, but i have used 2 modular systems by Doepfer and i wasn't impressed by their tone...their were more suitable for sound design etc...they had the basic and the advanced vco modules installed. I don't know, maybe they have tweaked the oscillator inside Dark Energy or it is based on a different design...i don't think that it's comparable in any way to a Macbeth oscillator and filter though...

Well, I don't think that the doepfer is comparable to the macbeth, and I don't think that the macbeth is comparable to the Cwejman....they all sound different.

From my understanding (I don't have any doepfer modular oscillators here at the moment, but don't remember being all that thrilled with the one I had awhile back) - the dark energy sounds different. I think it sounds good. I just don't think that you can conclude that because you heard this or that youtube video, or tried a doepfer modular oscillator in the past, that the Dark Energy doesn't sound good. It not only sounds good, but it is very easy to tweak, and the build quality seems quite good. Looks nice too.

[Yoozer]

Hot damn.

[axm311]

I think DE sounds good. it sucks it doesnt have an extra osc, but what is worse imo is you can't access every component separately. I'd have to look at the manual again to specify, but i dont think you can access the osc on its own without the filter, or maybe its vice versa?

so for the USD price*, i think there are better (or i should say more full featured) options for just a bit more cash, like the Kraftzwerg (which is what I ultimately bought instead). since i wanted it as a kick off to a euro setup this was important. this macbeth thing looks really cool, and on the muffwiggler thread he said he was doing it in module form too. he did erase the post with the price though, so maybe it will be more than 1000 uk pounds

*with that said at the euro price i prob would have picked one up. not like it's loads cheaper but at $625 vs $799 the MFB was a nobrainer, at $500 I prob would have picked up DE and a euro case instead

[boon]

he said on muffwiggler that he is gonna make this and design it as a euro module and a standalone synth. midi will be built in. euro module will be 42hp.

i think it's great.

he said, also on muffs, that if you are interested in buying one of these to email him. email addy at his website.

MACBETH STUDIO SYSTEMS

[axm311]

btw his initial post saying they'd be 995 uk pounds was edited, not sure if that means it's going up or down