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Usb to Midi

i have a novation super bass station. (analog synth bass rack).

an akai lpk 25. (a micro midi keyboard)
The akai has just the usb port.

i have no latpop


Is there a way to connect the akai to the rack?
Basically i'd need a usb-midi cable or something like that..

I can't afford another midi controller for the next gigs.
And i couldn't buy a motu mtp.

thanks

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Try looking for one of these....



It has no USB to worry about, they're cheap, and not too much in the buttons/lcd to make it any more complicated than it needs to be. The company that made them is called Midisoft, but they're no longer in business, and what's funny is, they didn't even advertise their name on their product!
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There's no way to do what you want, because indeed - USB connectors like that -need- a computer of sorts on the other end.

Try to score a cheap Oxygen 25 in your local classifieds or something.
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this prolly wont work, but its cheap enuff to purchase and just have in the future:

USB-MIDI CABLE AudioLink Series MIDI-to-USB Cable

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That won't work. USB-only controllers require a computer to work.
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That won't work. USB-only controllers require a computer to work.
yes, you're right

thanks anyway.
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On top of needing the computer to interface with, It'll also need bus power... So yeah it's a complete no go :(
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That won't work. USB-only controllers require a computer to work.
But.. What if i'd plug the midi controller to a midi/usb "midi time piece"?

I noticed some midi time piece works stand alone.

By this way the midi controller would have bus power from the midi time piece.

The midi time piece would provide the routing for the midi signals..

And i wouldn't need a latpop : )

Is that possible?

Thanks..

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If the controller is not bus-powered (e.g. it has a separate input for a power supply) and if you're connecting the controller's MIDI out to the Time Piece MIDI in, then the Time Piece (if it's standalone) should be able to work with the incoming MIDI signals.

If you think of simply hooking your controller up via USB to the Time Piece's USB input, no; the Akai has an USB A type output and the Time Piece has an USB Type B input.

Get yourself the cheapest 25-key controller with MIDI out that you can find, because your plans with USB are not going to work.
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yes, you're right

thanks anyway.

No, there is a device for this now.

MIDI Routing for the 21st Century | <none>

" It also connects standard MIDI DIN to USB MIDI 1.0 in the absence of a computing device, bridging old to new MIDI technologies."

Has to be a class compliant USB midi device though
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Hah, that's brilliant
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Thank you so much!!!!!
: )

I travel a lot by plane; every single time i have trouble because the weight and the size of my hand baggage (that's why i bought 2 akai lpk25 midi keyboard).
Though i still had a problem with connecting the two controllers to my racks (i can't afford a latpop by now)

you give me the solution!
Thank you!

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For the price you'll end up paying when the unit does ship ($200 in Jan 2011), you could have bought a cheap-o laptop on sale (ESPECIALLY around Black Friday). That, along with the functionality of a laptop makes me wonder if this really is your best option.
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For the price you'll end up paying when the unit does ship ($200 in Jan 2011), you could have bought a cheap-o laptop on sale (ESPECIALLY around Black Friday). That, along with the functionality of a laptop makes me wonder if this really is your best option.
I would like to add how completely insane it is how the industry has replaced plain old midi with midi over USB so now we have devices that are usb only which then brings about the need for something like this to turn it back to plain old midi

whoever decided to make usb midi only devices should be shot (or at least caned). Adding physical midi I/O is an extra $5 in parts and two pins on a micro.
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I would like to add how completely insane it is how the industry has replaced plain old midi with midi over USB so now we have devices that are usb only which then brings about the need for something like this to turn it back to plain old midi

whoever decided to make usb midi only devices should be shot (or at least caned). Adding physical midi I/O is an extra $5 in parts and two pins on a micro.
Completely agree! These manufactures still have the audacity to call these MIDI controllers. Damn marketing turns a USB/MIDI Controller into a USB-MIDI Controller. Just leave out the "slashes" and "dashes" and let the consumer figure it out.
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For the price you'll end up paying when the unit does ship ($200 in Jan 2011), you could have bought a cheap-o laptop on sale (ESPECIALLY around Black Friday). That, along with the functionality of a laptop makes me wonder if this really is your best option.
You may be right, but i'm trying to save enough money to buy an I Pad or a Macbook

So for the next gigs (january, february, march) i was searching for a different solution.

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I would like to add how completely insane it is how the industry has replaced plain old midi with midi over USB so now we have devices that are usb only which then brings about the need for something like this to turn it back to plain old midi
I definitely agree
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