Pop music sweeps, synth swells in pop tracks

[Tapes11]

Hey ya. So I am doing pop music (ala Britney, Ke$ha, Katy ect...) and I've been looking for the best and easiest way to create these big sweeps and synth swells into and out of choruses (transitions.) you hear this a ton in Dr. Luke/Max Martin style production.

I have been successful in automating soft synths to open and close filters ect, freq sweep and all that. But I have heard so many of these sweeps, all so different, I feel like there is a soft instrument that may be out there to do this in a more robust way. Are they using a box for this, or analog synths? A Kaos box maybe?

Please let me know if you have any thoughts you mad geniuses you. BTW I'm in Logic Pro. Thanks!

[Yoozer]

Try layering that sweep with a reversed reverb (take audio file, reverse it, apply reverb, reverse the result) of several instruments playing at the same time in the same key.

[Tapes11]

Ya, that would result in what I would describe as a "ghosty" swell. The swells I'm talking about are inorganic, long sweeps.

There are several up and down in this tune:

Ke$ha - Your Love Is My Drug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLGtc1pLWMw

4 bars before each chorus going up, 4 bars starting in the chorus going down. There's also an especially long and developing sweep in the bridge.

Any thoughts?

[Yoozer]

Noise generator with a formant/comb filter going over it. Multiple resonant peaks, spaced - controlled with a single filter cutoff.

If you want to save yourself work, something like Vengeance-Music.de

[mike vee]

or these:

ILIO - Trancefusion

Zenhiser - Search Results for "rise falls"

(this one is awesome)

[Tapes11]

So, so helpful. Thanks guys!!

[mike vee]

no problem...please though, no more kesha type artists,,they are bottom of the barrell shit!!!

[cryophonik]

Check out the Wave Alchemy FX collections

SFX Collection 01 - Dance Sound Effects Samples & Transition FX Download

Odyssey FX | Wav Sound Effects (free!)

[Michael Khan]

I really want Dr. Luke's transition effect that's on Kesha's stuff just so I can make a better beat and show him up.

[Canon2323]

Originally Posted by Michael Khan

I really want Dr. Luke's transition effect that's on Kesha's stuff just so I can make a better beat and show him up.

Lol. Heard your stuff. Not bad. Not as good as Luke or Blanco though yet man. In that market, songs have to reel you in within seconds and never let go. He's got lots of experience which is probably his best tool.

For the sweeps, try RazorFX by primeloops and filter it up.

When I saw Luke he was saying that for those fx he has a bank he created using some analog synth and detuning one of the OSC to get it wide. When he wants one he scrolls through the samples he made.

[Michael Khan]

Originally Posted by Canon2323

Lol. Heard your stuff. Not bad. Not as good as Luke or Blanco though yet man. In that market, songs have to reel you in within seconds and never let go. He's got lots of experience which is probably his best tool.

For the sweeps, try RazorFX by primeloops and filter it up.

When I saw Luke he was saying that for those fx he has a bank he created using some analog synth and detuning one of the OSC to get it wide. When he wants one he scrolls through the samples he made.

ha I know, I was just kidding, everyone knows dr. luke is a genius. but nice tips