Why do the Moog patches in Trilian sound close but the Mopho patches sound like crap?

[bs333]

So I got to demo trilian through my live bass rig yesterday. I run my synths through an older 300w ampeg tube bass head and a 1x15 w/horn and a 2x10. My mopho and voyager go through this rig for live shows. Lots of the synth patches in Trilian are really cool (ms-20, metasonix, jp8) but when I got to the mopho presets it was just laughable. Maybe they tried to make it sound bad because its kind of in the same market/price point. Anyone else own the synths that trilian samples?

[bs333]

Good job guys. dfegad fuuck

[pr0gr4m]

If you have a dumb ass question about a product you should take your dumb ass question and present it to the people who make the product. THEY would be best equipped to answer your dumb ass question...dumb ass.

[rockerbruce]

ahahahah wow. this whole thread made me laugh.
posts of the day?

[ctrlshft]

[rids]

I wasn't really impressed with the Mopho presets either, or waveforms for that matter. Though they did have a nice weight to them, but more of a different flavor, not bad in my mind. Did you feel it was missing some of the harmonics?

[The MPCist]

Originally Posted by pr0gr4m

If you have a dumb ass question about a product you should take your dumb ass question and present it to the people who make the product. THEY would be best equipped to answer your dumb ass question...dumb ass.

But if people actually did that, Gearslutz would be a half-empty place!

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by pr0gr4m

If you have a dumb ass question about a product you should take your dumb ass question and present it to the people who make the product. THEY would be best equipped to answer your dumb ass question...dumb ass.

I think it was a logical question...at least he asked it like a gentleman...unlike you...

[bs333]

Sometimes this place can really feel like nothing but 12 year olds writing about things of which they have little knowledge..... I guess I was looking for people that have experience with trilian and the actual synths that they sample. In all of the internet reviews that comparison is usually absent, but it seems like that would be the whole point of trilian. Sure its convenient to be able to pull up a voyager and a MS-20 at your leisure but if they dont come close sonically than whats the point. On a second review with the voyager patches I the real Moog wins out everytime.

[synthdood]

pr0gr4m should change his nick to "70's show Red"

[Jetty]

Originally Posted by bs333

So I got to demo trilian through my live bass rig yesterday. I run my synths through an older 300w ampeg tube bass head and a 1x15 w/horn and a 2x10. My mopho and voyager go through this rig for live shows. Lots of the synth patches in Trilian are really cool (ms-20, metasonix, jp8) but when I got to the mopho presets it was just laughable. Maybe they tried to make it sound bad because its kind of in the same market/price point. Anyone else own the synths that trilian samples?

I own some of the synths and therefore not Trillian.

[Tarkovsky]

OK... I'll bite the bullet here for the sake of everyone's sanity.

The DSI mopho isn't supposed to sound anything like a moog. It's supposed to sound like a DSI mopho.


You are effectively asking 'why does the water out of my toilet taste like shit?'.

[Jetty]

Originally Posted by Tarkovsky

OK... I'll bite the bullet here for the sake of everyone's sanity.

The DSI mopho isn't supposed to sound anything like a moog. It's supposed to sound like a DSI mopho.


You are effectively asking 'why does the water out of my toilet taste like shit?'.

He has a mopho and it was great through his rig, the Trillian samples weren't.

[Tarkovsky]

OK.... sorry... I think this has cause a lot of confusion.

You mean the mopho patches IN TRILLIAN. That makes a LOT more sense. Sorry about that!

[zerocrossing]

I can't say anything directly about Trillian, but it could possibily be that the people who made the patches were making them to sound good in a professional studio environment using nice high end studio monitors. Not a bass guitar rig, which is a totally different animal. I've gotten synths to sound really cool by running them though bass guitar amps... but I always bypass the cabinet.

So I'm surprised the real question isn't, "Why do any of the presets in Trillian sound good going through a bass amp?"

[Muser]

The OP is running a line level signal into a Hi Z input ?

if you can convert it to Hi Z you might get much more scope from the Amp system.

[NewSc2]

Originally Posted by Spectral Climax

I think it was a logical question...at least he asked it like a gentleman...unlike you...

To be fair, OP insinuated this:

Originally Posted by bs333

Lots of the synth patches in Trilian are really cool (ms-20, metasonix, jp8) but when I got to the mopho presets it was just laughable. Maybe they tried to make it sound bad because its kind of in the same market/price point.

Which is kind of a point.

"Should I buy Trillian or a Mopho?" They're completely different beasts! Do you think Tonebuilder purposely made his ER1 samples sound bad? Because you could pick one up used for about the same price as his DMD set.

[pr0gr4m]

Originally Posted by Spectral Climax

I think it was a logical question...at least he asked it like a gentleman...unlike you...

He asked it like a gentlemen, waited 26 hours, didn't get a response...then hit us with a dfegad and a fuuck. In my book, that's not gentlemenly. And although I used the words 'dumb' and 'ass' a bunch in my response, if he would do what I suggested, he may be able to find out if the makers of Trillian did indeed make crappy sounds because of the market. No one here can answer that for him unless they work for the company.