5 SH-2's on Ebay right now

[subby33]

But wouldn't you say they are all overpriced? Shipping is 150.


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Dont even get me started on the Moog Source thats been sitting forever at 2,500 bucks.

[lain2097]

All from Japan = over priced. So what if they're in great/amazing condition, plus you have the costly postage.

7-800 max.

[Xero]

yeah i dunno the going rate is like 700-900 these days soo take shipping in to mind and stay within that and you'll be fine...that one for 799 seems like a decent deal

im tempted to sell mine honestly and my moog prodigy and try to score a minimoog model d....it really doesn't sound that much better/worse than my sh101....although i guess the extra OSC is kinda nice...

[rids]

There was a SH2 with the mod for Osc sync and a LFO mod for $850 that sold a month ago on one of these forums. That makes sense, but I stay away from ebay. Silly stuff goes on there. If I want a synth I'll buy from a good forum.

[Xero]

Originally Posted by rids

There was a SH2 with the mod for Osc sync and a LFO mod for $850 that sold a month ago on one of these forums. That makes sense, but I stay away from ebay. Silly stuff goes on there. If I want a synth I'll buy from a good forum.

i got mine from modeless factory together with a cs-10 for a combined price...yeah its japan but he's probably the most legit/fair japanese dealer there is. he's got one for $850 shipped up right now and one for $1099 that's like absolutely mint.

[subby33]

Originally Posted by rids

There was a SH2 with the mod for Osc sync and a LFO mod for $850 that sold a month ago on one of these forums. That makes sense, but I stay away from ebay. Silly stuff goes on there. If I want a synth I'll buy from a good forum.

Any suggestions on a good forum for this? I put a WTB in the classified section, all I got were 2 scam artists.

Originally Posted by Xero

i got mine from modeless factory together with a cs-10 for a combined price...yeah its japan but he's probably the most legit/fair japanese dealer there is. he's got one for $850 shipped up right now and one for $1099 that's like absolutely mint.

The 850 dollar one has some unnaceptable visual damage IMO. Looks like rust rot. Not gonna happen. I want a nice one ;-).

Sell me yours xero. I'll buy it.

[Xero]

Originally Posted by subby33

Any suggestions on a good forum for this? I put a WTB in the classified section, all I got were 2 scam artists.



The 850 dollar one has some unnaceptable visual damage IMO. Looks like rust rot. Not gonna happen. I want a nice one ;-).

Sell me yours xero. I'll buy it.

hah well mine's not perfect either, the keys are a bit yellowed, although nothing that couldn't be fixed with that magic un-yellowing solution that has been talked about numerous times...but mine's not for sale just yet...quite honestly i've barely touched it since I got it and my priority is to sell my jx8p at the moment.

[subby33]

Originally Posted by Xero

hah well mine's not perfect either, the keys are a bit yellowed, although nothing that couldn't be fixed with that magic un-yellowing solution that has been talked about numerous times...but mine's not for sale just yet...quite honestly i've barely touched it since I got it and my priority is to sell my jx8p at the moment.

Bro, stop buying stuff so that you dont have to sell it!

[Xero]

Originally Posted by subby33

Bro, stop buying stuff so that you dont have to sell it!

well i got a mks70 so im selling the jx8p, its not because i don't like the jx8p, but at one point my jx8p had a messed up divider chip which i fixed, and i was gonna just keep it if i couldn't fix it, but since i fixed it now it's going up for sale....the sh-2 and prodigy are going to take my jx8p's place on my rack stand and I want to get that all setup so i can actually have some more hands-on time with the sh-2, i may end up not selling it afterall, but i would probably have no issue selling the prodigy for a model D if the opportunity came up...but i haven't bought anything since the jupiter 8 and xv-88 back in may which make up my 2nd 3 tier stand (jp8/xv88/cs10)

quite honestly i'm still paying off some of it which i bought via billmelater, i am down to about $900 left which i should have paid off next month! That was mainly the mks70 and xv-88...selling the jx8p should take care of a chunk of that too... you wont see me buying anything til atleast September which is convenient cause that's my bday!

[subby33]

Originally Posted by Xero

well i got a mks70 so im selling the jx8p, its not because i don't like the jx8p, but at one point my jx8p had a messed up divider chip which i fixed, and i was gonna just keep it if i couldn't fix it, but since i fixed it now it's going up for sale....the sh-2 and prodigy are going to take my jx8p's place on my rack stand and I want to get that all setup so i can actually have some more hands-on time with the sh-2, i may end up not selling it afterall, but i would probably have no issue selling the prodigy for a model D if the opportunity came up...but i haven't bought anything since the jupiter 8 and xv-88 back in may which make up my 2nd 3 tier stand (jp8/xv88/cs10)

quite honestly i'm still paying off some of it which i bought via billmelater, i am down to about $900 left which i should have paid off next month! That was mainly the mks70 and xv-88...selling the jx8p should take care of a chunk of that too...

I'm a cheap bastard, and I refuse to put things on credit Lol. I'm just getting impatient I suppose. Seems this stuff was up for good prices when I wasn't lookin.

And I just cant go modern analogue, I'm just not feeling it. Dont care what anybody else says. Well I care what they say but I just dont agree for the most part on the sound.

[Xero]

Originally Posted by subby33

I'm a cheap bastard, and I refuse to put things on credit Lol. I'm just getting impatient I suppose. Seems this stuff was up for good prices when I wasn't lookin.

And I just cant go modern analogue, I'm just not feeling it. Dont care what anybody else says. Well I care what they say but I just dont agree for the most part on the sound.

well i couldn't pass up a good deal...it has nothin' to do with being cheap or not honestly, and i rarely ever pay interest on my credit card cause i almost always pay it off that same month, but just so happens buying a jupiter 8 and a new car and a mks70 and xv-88 in the same month was probably not the best timing, but my old car's transmission was going and well i paid like $20 in interest because i carried over a balance for the first time ever...hardly the end of the world and i'll be back in the plus again within a month so i'm not all that upset...

[Rude Talk]

I want to buy one but I'm not gonna bother ordering one from Japan. (I'm from Europe)

So I was thinking of looking for another sh. But even like a 09 or 1 are hard to find. The only one I do find easily is the widespread sh-101.

How does the sh-101 compares sound wise to the 02? Are those completely different beasts?

[Xero]

Originally Posted by Rude Talk

I want to buy one but I'm not gonna bother ordering one from Japan. (I'm from Europe)

So I was thinking of looking for another sh. But even like a 09 or 1 are hard to find. The only one I do find easily is the widespread sh-101.

How does the sh-101 compares sound wise to the 02? Are those completely different beasts?

honestly the sh101 is almost the same, but has a a sequencer, but only 1 osc, but has a noise source that the sh2 doesn't...

[Arcadia]

Originally Posted by Xero

honestly the sh101 is almost the same, but has a a sequencer, but only 1 osc, but has a noise source that the sh2 doesn't...

Sh-2 has noise as a waveform option and sounds totally different than the 101. Sh-2 is warmer and has more of a 70s vibe and 101 is more biting.

[Malkit]

Originally Posted by Rude Talk

How does the sh-101 compares sound wise to the 02? Are those completely different beasts?

The SH-2 is completely different from the SH-101. If memory serves me correctly, it's entirely discrete, whereas the SH-101 is chip based. The envelopes are faster on the SH-2, and its filter is based off of the older, Roland modular gear. I've had the two side-by-side. Due to laziness and the lack of a properly-aligned technical vocabulary, I'll say it this way:

The Sh-101 has the sound of 80's acid house. Resonance is key, here, and you can make it squelch and squeal.

The SH-2 gives the Minimoog a run for its money. Its oscillators are extremely powerful and the filter goes from "woody", with lower resonance to "acidic" with higher resonance. I think it may be a ladder filter, like the moog, but I could be wrong.

The SH-101 is awesome, but the SH-2 is deadly. Was my secret bass weapon for many, many years.

Good luck!

[subby33]

Originally Posted by Rude Talk

I want to buy one but I'm not gonna bother ordering one from Japan. (I'm from Europe)

So I was thinking of looking for another sh. But even like a 09 or 1 are hard to find. The only one I do find easily is the widespread sh-101.

How does the sh-101 compares sound wise to the 02? Are those completely different beasts?

The ones you mentioned are both 1 oscillator synths, and wont compare in the depth you'll get from a two osc synth. There is one synth that may be the execption but IMO, a bass synth should have 2 osc. 3 would be nice but . . . cant have everything.

The sh101 sounds totally different to the Sh-2. The 101 is great for like acid music . . . or its good for people who cannot afford a Tb303. They dont sound exactly like a Tb303 but it kind of covers the same sounds. You wont get a nice thick moog like sounding bass out of a 101. I'm going for a Moog Source or an SH-2 because they do amazingly awesome bass. As far as I've researched there are 3 bass synths people really go for, Moog Source, SH-2 and SC Pro One. Of course there's the Mini Moog but thats expensive.

Anyway, the sh-2 doesn't sound like the 101 at all IMO.

[Xero]

Originally Posted by Arcadia

Sh-2 has noise as a waveform option and sounds totally different than the 101. Sh-2 is warmer and has more of a 70s vibe and 101 is more biting.

does it? wow i really need to start using my sh-2 more i'm ********.

I coulda swore it was lacking a waveform or something the sh-101 doesn't have


OOOH i remmeber, the sub-osc on the sh-2 isn't adjustable, i think its just a squarewave, on the sh101 you get a few options for it...i think 2 octave options and a pulse or something

[subby33]

Originally Posted by Xero

i'm ********.

J/k bro

[Xero]

Originally Posted by subby33

J/k bro

lol so i finally took my jx8p off the stand and put up my additional arms and got my sh-2 and moog prodigy on my 3 tier...

ok yeah after playing around some more the sh-2 is pretty sweet and definitely has a slightly warmer/70sish/wahtever sound, it's basically less "sharp"/more dark sounding, it sounds kinda fuzzy almost, the sh-101 is more crisp and resonant sounding...but honestly they still sound very very similar...discrete or not. after all the sh-101 used the ir3109 which is the same as the junos and jupiters and such... i have a feeling maybe the sh-2 is just a discrete version of the ir3109 or something...

the sh-2 keyboard sucks, sh-101's is much better. that 70s-era roland keyboard is just meh...the later ones are much better. but really, i've got all the cv/gate to midi adapters i need so there's little reason to ever touch it's actual keyboard if you don't want to...

the sub-osc can be adjusted octave up/down but it follows whatever OSC1 is set to...ok so that's not so bad...you can't choose pulse though, it's always square...but really that's almost as good as the sh-101 since you can adjust the octave which i thought you couldn't


it helps when you actually use the damn things you buy eh? It's just been on the backburner since i have been dreading to lug the jx8p around and disassemble my keyboard stand but i've finally did it...i should clean up in here and get my mks50/70 racked next and then i am probably due for some more pictures

[lain2097]

I had a 101 at point but ultimately decided to sell it in favour of the sh-2 more of less for the same reasons above. Besides my Jupiter 6 when using one osc one env can sound almost exactly the same. Being CEM based and all.

While not as a "acidic" filter the SH-2 is defiantly bassier and bigger sounding.

The sh-2 has a sine wave on osc-1 and a unique feature "auto bend". But yes the 101 sub had an option of 1 or 2 octaves down or 2 down + fixed pulse. SH-2 has a fixed square one octave down from osc-1.

[murphythecat87]

Originally Posted by Malkit

The SH-2 is completely different from the SH-101. If memory serves me correctly, it's entirely discrete, whereas the SH-101 is chip based. The envelopes are faster on the SH-2, and its filter is based off of the older, Roland modular gear. I've had the two side-by-side. Due to laziness and the lack of a properly-aligned technical vocabulary, I'll say it this way:

The Sh-101 has the sound of 80's acid house. Resonance is key, here, and you can make it squelch and squeal.

The SH-2 gives the Minimoog a run for its money. Its oscillators are extremely powerful and the filter goes from "woody", with lower resonance to "acidic" with higher resonance. I think it may be a ladder filter, like the moog, but I could be wrong.

The SH-101 is awesome, but the SH-2 is deadly. Was my secret bass weapon for many, many years.

Good luck!

...Until you found...?

[firby]

Yes, do tell!

[dougt]

Another huge plus the 2 has over the 101 is the external input and envelope follower. Great feedback/overloading sounds can be had looping it into itself...

[subby33]

Originally Posted by murphythecat87

...Until you found...?

Tell us! Do it!

[Xero]

so i was playing around with my jp8/808 and sequencing the arp via midi and ended up playing around with the sh2 half way in

www.xero.cc/sh2jp8.mp3

comes in around 3:50 so you can fastforward to hear it if you just want to hear that...my jp8 arpeggio is being triggered by midi and i was playing the jp8 at first in split mode but then i was like oh hey my sh2 is on...lets play...

so yeah i am not so sure i want to sell it now...it's definitely got character. if i ever do get a model D, ill probably just front the money and then sell what i don't want afterwards...prolly the prodigy, i mean it sorta wishes it was a model d...

[Malkit]

Originally Posted by subby33

Tell us! Do it!

Haha...forgot about this thread.

Well, the news is that I had that SH-2 until I sold it for a last-minute plane ticket to a friend's wedding. 2006.

I probably missed the SH-2 the most, of all my synths. Mono/Poly was a close second.

I now have the SH-2's forgotten brother- the SH-1. That is even truer to the modular lineage, and although losing an oscillator, has more options (hp filter, extra envelope adjustable ext. input, pink noise)

It also produces the same chewy, fuzzy, lightning-fast bass as the SH-2, so I feel complete again.

[sctt_stone]

I just posted a thread yesterday asking about this Mod. Never got an answer.

Originally Posted by rids

There was a SH2 with the mod for Osc sync and a LFO mod for $850 that sold a month ago on one of these forums. That makes sense, but I stay away from ebay. Silly stuff goes on there. If I want a synth I'll buy from a good forum.

[gregor z]

I have two SH 09 instead of one SH 2.

They sound identical to SH 2 minus oscillator, but I have both SH 09s connected with CV/Gate and I have a monster two oscillator, two filter monosynth.....which is way more powerful than one SH 2.

They both have a small modification - noise generator is directly connected to an External input fader, as long as you don't plug a jack into external input.
Essential modification for all Sh 09 - SH 2 owners. Plus that I changed all electrolytic capacitors with Panasonic FC. BIG CHANGE!!!

Immediately when I bought first SH 09 , I played it side by side with SH 101, and in my opinion they can not be compared. SH 101 left my synth room soon after that.
I bought another SH 09 and financed full restoration and modifications for both.

Besides sounding bigger, rawer and punchier, I found SH 09 to be more musical and I could get sounds that " work" faster than on SH 101.


Just My 2c

G

[mc202]

Originally Posted by Malkit

I now have the SH-2's forgotten brother- the SH-1. That is even truer to the modular lineage, and although losing an oscillator, has more options (hp filter, extra envelope adjustable ext. input, pink noise)

Please tell me more about the sh1 sound. I have an sh2 (wonderful!) and a sh101 and system100 but am really tempted by the sh1. Logically I see little reason to do it. How much different can it be from what I already have. But I still want to try one very badly.

[mc202]

Originally Posted by gregor z

They both have a small modification - noise generator is directly connected to an External input fader, as long as you don't plug a jack into external input.

Any link to schematics for that?

Originally Posted by gregor z

Plus that I changed all electrolytic capacitors with Panasonic FC. BIG CHANGE!!!

Interesting. What type of change did the new caps give? Less noise?