Program Juno 106 patch into Juno 60, does it work? sound the same?

[Xero]

Originally Posted by esaias

Hi!

I got a Juno 60 instead 106 for a live show, I have a patch chart of the 106 patches we use. Can I just go and program (by hand) the 60 with the 106 patch settings? will it work? Aren't these two synth pretty much the same architecture wise?

thanks,
-Tomi

I'm sure it'll sound close enough, but it might need some tweaking here and there, which you can do as you go along...The juno 60 definitely has a bit more umph to it, it's got hardware envelope generators instead of software-based ones like in the 106...

[lain2097]

Sure why not? They both have more or less the **same subtractive path. As Xero stated, the 60 has a hardware EG so it will probably not react to the exact curve of the 106.

**Except for the negative envelope on the 106.

[CfNorENa]

Another (minor?) difference: on the Juno 60 you can route the envelope to PWM.

[Yoozer]

The 60 has no portamento and no monophonic mode so if any of the patches use that, too bad. For the rest it'll do just fine.

[Xero]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

The 60 has no portamento and no monophonic mode so if any of the patches use that, too bad. For the rest it'll do just fine.

I think if you put it into debug mode, there's a way to get a monophonic mode out of it...but ya, no portamento, not the hugest loss imo...you still get a pitchbender at least...

[jbuonacc]

Originally Posted by lain2097

**Except for the negative envelope on the 106.

the JU-60 features the +/- filter envelope as well.

[esaias]

I think it'll be OK, nothing too complicated in our live set-up. I'll buy a beer for the one who comes up and says that the synth sounds are a bit different from another gigs :D

Thanks guys!

-Tomi

p.s. see you at Lissbon Alive / Planet Turbo

[plastic ships]

im gonna have to try this! i once got burned from a guy on ebay when i bought my "mint juno 106" with socket mod for the voice chips. along with a shtty juno the guy gave me a cd. it had all the soundsets from every customer he worked on. i uploaded all of these sounds to a yahoogroup. will try and load these in my juno60

Edit: wait doesnt the 106 have more memory slots? hmmm are you guys referring to loading patches from the raw wave files?

[esaias]

Originally Posted by mars_holie

im gonna have to try this! i once got burned from a guy on ebay when i bought my "mint juno 106" with socket mod for the voice chips. along with a shtty juno the guy gave me a cd. it had all the soundsets from every customer he worked on. i uploaded all of these sounds to a yahoogroup. will try and load these in my juno60

Edit: wait doesnt the 106 have more memory slots? hmmm are you guys referring to loading patches from the raw wave files?

I was talking about tweaking the sliders and knobs in to same position as in juno 106 -> juno 60



-Tomi

[engineejoel]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

The 60 has no portamento and no monophonic mode so if any of the patches use that, too bad. For the rest it'll do just fine.

Yes, you can put the JUNO 60 in MONO mode:

To Access the Mono Keyboard Mode:

Turn Off the Juno-60's power.
Hold down the "Key Transpose" button.
Turn On the power.
Continue holding down the "Key Transpose" button for 2 seconds.
Now put the "Arpeggio Mode" selector switch in the UP position.
To return the keyboard to normal mode, turn Off its power for at least 3 seconds.

[Carey M]

Used to have both in the late 90's early 00's. I had to do exactly what you described, to get my 106 sounds transferred to the 60 for a live show. There were a couple high resonance sounds that needed a bit more tweaking (the filters were clearly calibrated a bit differently), but for the most part, it worked really well.

Originally Posted by esaias

I'll buy a beer for the one who comes up and says that the synth sounds are a bit different from another gigs :D

"I can totally hear the difference. Totally different sound"

- CM