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Good and simple LFO Vst...

Well , i lookd at other thread but i didnt find the answer / Vst im lookin for.

First im realy looking at a VST...not a VSTI
second, I want it simple.
All i need is:

-Sync to beat Mode AND a FREE Mode
-Range of 2/1 - 1/64 + Triplet
-Depth knob
-Reso Knob
-Mix Dry/Wet Knob

Thats it !
I lookd for it but i didnt find ish!

Im not doin dubstep
Im on Electro-Punk type of stuff !!

If you guys know a couple i can try...i would realy apreciate

Thanks !!
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I tryd the sanford Lfo and its not doin what i want im to...


Maybe it'll give you an idea on the type of thing and style i want to do.

Gtronic - Iron Man ( StereoHeroes Remix ) Bridge Preview

And the complete track on youtube :

Original

StereoHeroes Remix


And if you want to know why i want to do this , then its just because i love this type of music and thats what i do best....But normaly i use the lfo on VSTI i use but this time i made a group with 4 different VSTI and i want to apply the LFO vst on that group so all the sound will be bouncing at the same time ...and i can still put out some of the sound while the other sound are still being processed by the lfo.

I wish you wont judge me

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Oooops... too late.

An LFO (low frequency oscillator) is typically used to introduce continuous and periodic changes in one of the synthesis parameters. For example, when you modulate pitch with an LFO you obtain vibrato... if you modulate amplitude with an LFO, you obtain tremolo..... when you modulate the filter's cutoff with the LFO, you get a wah-wah effect. But the LFO by itself does not change the sound... it is only used to modulate an amplifier or filter.

For example, in the clip you posted, it sounds like an LFO is being applied to control the level and harmonic content of the sound... doesn't sound like a filter, though... more like overdrive or some kind of distortion. But I would even doubt they're actually using an LFO because the result doesn't sound so "perfect". They might as well be using the mod wheel to modulate the sound and playing it all by hand (whoooah!).

So, depending on what you want to accomplish, you could use the LFO MIDI plugin another poster suggested to control your synths' parameters (you will have to assign the LFO to the MIDI CC of those parameters), or you can search for a filter or amplifier plugin that can be modulated with an in-built LFO (e.g., something like PSP Nitro is great for this).
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I'm not judging you at all; it's that there's most likely that the way this is done does not have to involve a separate LFO VST.

If you want to have 4 instruments going on at the same time, it makes far more sense to sample them playing a single note for 20 seconds or something, and then load the sample up in Kontakt or whatever - and -then- apply an LFO again.

The advantage of this is that you can apply LFOs to each separate sound, and if you choose the looping point correctly and then use the sampler's LFO, these create again even more complicated waveforms.

In your example, you could for instance sample your layer cake of instruments 4 or 5 times - each with different settings and distortions. Then, you load up the "static" notes in a software sampler - to get the most out of it, simply put each variation on a velocity layer and disable velocity > amplifier.

Then you put this through a filter, and let the LFO of the sampler control the filter.

This gives you the added benefit of not having to deal with the distortion's reaction to opening/closing the filter cutoff, which may muddy the sound too much.

Read Optical, Noisia, Calyx Bässe - So gehts! | Producer-Network through Google translator and listen to the examples. It shows a very similar technique; just tailored towards drum 'n bass intead of dubstep.
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Hahahaha.... You kcuFer!!!

Thanks for the Knowledge...i realy appreciate!!

Ill try the Psp Nitro....but seriously...i doubt hes doin all this by hand ...theres some place where the triplet is so fast.....I mean...i cant even move my hand ,with touching a knob, that fast !

What i want in fact is getting that Sync wahwah effect in triplet.

So yeah...something that will be applyd to the cut off....

I try'd my nuendo Chopper with the sin waveform and thats mostly what i want but the only thing is that the Sin start with the first beat of the Track Bpm.....
What i want is the sin to start when a note is being playd.

Actualy, i think yoozer was right !!!
The only thing is that i need to apply the Sanford Lfo to the 4 track and i dont even understand how i can apply it on only one track when Sanford LFO appears as a VSTI in nuendo...
So what i would need to do is make all midi track go through Leslie LFO then the LFO output signal to my vsti....

How the hell am i suposed to do this LOL

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Thanks Yoozer !!!

Ill go listen to it right now !!

By the way...the example is not dubstep and i dont do dubstep to Just for info
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but seriously...i doubt hes doin all this by hand ...theres some place where the triplet is so fast.....I mean...i cant even move my hand ,with touching a knob, that fast
it's called a modulation wheel...




oh and PS i can touch MY knob very fast indeed and have had that ability since i was about 14! thumbsup
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...theres some place where the triplet is so fast.....I mean...i cant even move my hand ,with touching a knob, that fast !
If you assign one rotary to the LFO speed and change that every time, it's child's play. Draw a random wiggly line and assign keytracking to LFO speed works pretty well, too.
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@ Yoozer :
Yeah, In nuendo its pretty easy to change settings of vst such as lfo rate.
The only problem is to find the good LFO....or just the good one im lookin for

I Just try'd the TAL filter and its still not what im lookin for.

Im getting a bit tirred of looking at all those VST'S.....it took me the day and im still not there yet

Its like a day wasted touching my knob

Maybe i can just find a midi LFO that i would put as an effect in my seperate midi track
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automation data??
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automation data??

Sorry?
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well since it doesn't seem like this guy is really looking for an lfo after all... anyone know of an actual midi lfo audio unit???
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well since it doesn't seem like this guy is really looking for an lfo after all... anyone know of an actual midi lfo audio unit???
Yes thats what im looking for !!!

I dont understand wich part of that post make you beleive im not....
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Yes thats what im looking for !!!

I dont understand wich part of that post make you beleive im not....
might be the fact that you said you wanted it to have a resonance and a mix knob...
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might be the fact that you said you wanted it to have a resonance and a mix knob...
ok....
so what your trying to tell me is that you have never seen an lfo with a resonance and mix knob on the same interface ...is that it ?
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ok....
so what your trying to tell me is that you have never seen an lfo with a resonance and mix knob on the same interface ...is that it ?
an lfo interface...
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an lfo interface...
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it's called a modulation wheel...




oh and PS i can touch MY knob very fast indeed and have had that ability since i was about 14! thumbsup
LMFAO
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HAHahah Waow !!!

Im not sure if your joking or you 2 just never heard the term INTERFACE but her's what an interface IS :

Computer Interface

Wiki should be enough for you guys :P

But if you still dont understand...dont be shy ...ill make a drawing just for you 2
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What they were saying (and you did not understand) is that "resonance" is typically a parameter of a filter, not an LFO. An LFO is an oscillator, so its parameters are typically waveshape, frequency, and possibly amplitude and phase, but never resonance.

It seems to me that it is not very clear to you what the different parts of a synthesizer are, what they do, and how they interact. My suggestion would be, if you really want to learn, to get yourself a virtual modular synth and start making your own patches from scratch. That's IMO the best way to learn what each component does without tying yourself to a specific architecture.
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HAHahah Waow !!!

Im not sure if your joking or you 2 just never heard the term INTERFACE but her's what an interface IS :

Computer Interface

Wiki should be enough for you guys :P

But if you still dont understand...dont be shy ...ill make a drawing just for you 2
dude we get what you mean, but what you mean is not what you say. if that makes sense.

anyway you're looking for

1) a pitch modulation, modulated with a sine or triangle wave LFO
answer: use a controller or automation. u need 2 controls 1 routed to LFO depth, the other to speed. ANY vsti will have this, if you're using an audio clip, bounce it and send it to a soft sampler first.

2) a pulse width modulation
answer: same as above accept that you'll need a vsti synth for this, although you can get a similar effect using a chorus plugin

3) a low pass or band pass filter.
answer: same as above or you could use PSP nitro or something like that.

to get all these mods running off the same LFO the easyest thing would be to use a vsti synth (any generic vsti synth will do this). or if you already have a sound without the synth, bounce it and do it in a soft sampler. end of.
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oh yea ps: you might want to look up L F O in wikipedia
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Oh OK !!

Sorry if i didnt calld it like you would understand but it seems like i found what i was lookin for ...FINALY !!!

Its called Angular Momentum LFO Controlled Filter
It got that mix knob
the reso knob
the quantization i was looking for
the depth knob
and a frequency knob
that was all i needed
I joind a picure so you can see what i was looking for !!

I also try'd
-Lfo Filter v2 from blechturmstudios
-Leslie.Sanford Lfo
-ShuttleBug Hulo
-NRR Filter from notromrecords
-StereoFilter from sanusart

They all got forces but that was not what i was looking for...for different reason!

Thanks a lot to Yoozer ....you helpd me a lot !!
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yeahh you could have just used any synth plug-in that can be used as an effect (most of them can) or just any hardware synth with an audio input..
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Yeah youre right !
I never used my reaktor for effect yet...nor other VSTI

Does it take as much CPU as vst then when its a VSTI ???
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i have no idea, i haven't used VSTs on a PC in a couple of years

but my common sense tells me that they should use less CPU since you're not using the oscillators or any of the voices
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also you are not going to get the exact effect that you seem to have pointed to in your examples.

it's simply not one single effect being applied to the sound.

there is tape/turntable/sampler slowdown speedup effects, distortion/overdrive, modulated filter. this sounds more like an envelope follower than a tempo matched lfo modulating it, probably a hardware unit like the electrix filter factory/queen or peavey spectrum filter. what makes me think this is the volume drops off also as well as the filtering so it's probably an envelope follower/filter combo.
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ups, sry i'am late,
i have made a vst lfo plugin (8 lfos), i hope you find it usefull, but first, i hope it works )
http://lfox8.0fees.net/

simple enough ? just tell me if you don't like it
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