Does anyone have a Doepher Dark Energy Synth?

[paradice]

If so, how does it stand up to something like a Tetra that's similarly priced?

[alehoe]

they're completely different animals

and that's weird that you posted about the dark energy, i was just watching this!

[Tibbon]

I was all about this, until I found the price. For that much, i'll just put together the smallest Doepfer setup and have a 'real' modular that i'll start with.

[Llitsor]

I really like the look (& sound) of it. Im tempted myself

Originally Posted by Tibbon

I was all about this, until I found the price. For that much, i'll just put together the smallest Doepfer setup and have a 'real' modular that i'll start with.

You can actually get the Dark Energy synth in "modular" form. And it's a little cheaper. It's the "A-111-5" module.



I don't really consider the standalone version expensive myself though..

[alehoe]

Originally Posted by Llitsor

I really like the look (& sound) of it. Im tempted myself



You can actually get the Dark Energy synth in "modular" form. And it's a little cheaper. It's the "A-111-5" module.



I don't really consider the standalone version expensive myself though..

yeah it's cheaper but no usb/midi

i think one of the cool thinks about the dark energy is that you can use it as a simple midi to cv converter

[paradice]

thanks for the alehoe

and i agree about buying the individual parts and making up a modular system, seem more, expandable that way

[hogberto]

there's a review of the Dark Energy in the latest sound on sound. but you'll need to subscribe to read it online for a few months...

[triez]

If you have held a Dark Energy in your hands, you will know what it's about. Very well built, solid, dense, a different beast to a modular in terms of being able to put it anywhere in your setup physically, and moving it around, putting it on top of another synth and so on.

[Tibbon]

Originally Posted by alehoe

yeah it's cheaper but no usb/midi

i think one of the cool thinks about the dark energy is that you can use it as a simple midi to cv converter

Yea, but for those of us that already have the CV/Midi (or just CV) then its totally cool. The modular part is tempting as a start.

[NAWAX]

I've got one and I love it to death.
It sounds really raw and fat for a one osc synth. It's a very aggressive little device.
Not very subtil but tasty !

[PiTeR-aR]

i was also thinking about it, well built, nice knobs, but one thing - does oscilator produce only triangle wave?

[Visible Cow]

Originally Posted by PiTeR-aR

i was also thinking about it, well built, nice knobs, but one thing - does oscilator produce only triangle wave?

I'm curious about this too.....I'm a bit confused by the oscillator's features. I'm playing with the idea of creating a relatively small polyphonic modular with three or four 111-5 modules and Doepfer's upcoming polyphonic midi-cv module......like a Vermona Perfourmer on steroids (and twice as expensive).

I think this would be insane in conjunction with my monomachine.

[otto-bot]

Neat little box but depending on your needs using the money towards starting a little euro modular might be a better use of money. You'll get a lot more ins and outs and functionality that way. Keep in mind this is a very basic synth on its own @$625

For a little bit more ($799) you can get a MFB Kraftzwerg (also euro style) that gives you a lot more possbilities, roughly the same functionality as a Moog Mini in modular format. 3 Osc, moog style filter, 2 LFOs, noise, ring modulator, 2 ADSRs... That's a shitload of power for the price. I'm using the MFB Synth II which is basically the same thing except not modular but with built in sequencer and patch saving. It's a very nice synth for the money, sounds lovely.

For the same functionality as the MFB you would have to buy 2 dark energy's and a couple additional modules...

Worth mentioning are the rumors that doepfer are also working on a matching, simple sequencer and possibly an expander.

EDIT: I should mention that while I havent had problems with my MFB Synth II, some people have mentioned issues with MFB stuff so the quality control might not be all that...

[gmixstudios]

I have just purchased two!! but I dont need the other, its still sealed!!
I just want the retail back for it, and buyer pays postage, £353 for the unit and £5 posted, email if interested.
BTW its great! small but more fun than a bag of frogs!

eventstudiosnottingham@googlemail.com

[bleepbleep]

Originally Posted by PiTeR-aR

i was also thinking about it, well built, nice knobs, but one thing - does oscilator produce only triangle wave?

it has a square oscillator with pulse width modulation, you can turn it off by turning the pwm knob to max

then there is a 2nd saw/triangle osc on a three way switch, the centre position in off -

[Pazuzu]

What I really liked about it from the audio demos I found was the filter. It sounds really good to my ears. A multi-osc version would be nice too.

And good luck selling a 2nd hand one for £353. You can get a brand new one from thomann.de for £340 Sorry.

[Shy]

Can anyone post useful audio demos or links to some? I haven't found any. Something with high resonance, distortion, fast envelopes, etc. with no additional processing and not a horrible quality file, preferably lossless.

[e-smile-z]

so does someone test it with a phatty?i mean the dark energy cv out into the phatty c in?mmmh maybe a bad ass combo?

[Shy]

Originally Posted by e-smile-z

so does someone test it with a phatty?i mean the dark energy cv out into the phatty c in?mmmh maybe a bad ass combo?

I'm thinking that too. May go well with my LP and CP-251. I'd just like to hear proper demos first.