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23rd December 2009
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| Gear addict Joined: Jul 2008
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Thread Starter | disco/funk chord
Ok, till now, all my music was made with samples, micro samples + bass, synths and solo synths etc...and I'm pretty happy with that, BUT, I'm totally out when it's about chord, chord progression... here are some tunes I like at this moment : YouTube - "I'll get You" Classixx feat. Jeppe/ Kitsuné x The Cobrasnake EP YouTube - Private - My Secret Lover YouTube - Miami Horror - Sometimes could you tell me, what's the common point? What's the kinda chord used |
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23rd December 2009
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2009 Location: UK
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minor 7th's & 6th's are good for funk. didn't listen to the clips though. |
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23rd December 2009
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The common point is a happy chord progression in the minor scales or disonant side of music theory. Just let your soul "think" & feel happy thoughts and first try "playng only with the white keys" to get the vibe on a major then try on the minor scale. Try some musical theory books especially search on the happy side. Try arpegios starting with sol (G)... re (D) scales Major scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Also another common point is the 4/4 structure, the drum pattern witch is an 80's disco new wave drum machine regular kick hat snare type on the same structure. Then you got the cheesy happy vocals... some vocal processing nothing over the top like vocoders or talkboxes... (maybe a mix between a talkboxy sound and a real voice) The rest is in the production the way they layer this stuff. 80's synths everywhere.. arpeggios... stabs of chords.. going down up and then in between notes of the scale to make it uplifting... Try to play over the songs and decompile their root scale... (miami horror and classixx are in the same scale G minor and have similar progressions) G minor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Anyway there's no secret to this... just practice and train your ear.. you'll get there. If you need tips more on producing stuff like this go to the italo thread here on gearslutz.. they used similar style of production back in the days... now's just more punchy and a bit cleverer but still cheesy... |
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23rd December 2009
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In those songs, major 7ths and minor 7ths (not dominant 7ths), and an occasional added raised 4th degree passing tone. (Added meaning that instead of just raising the 4th degree as in CDEF#GAB (instead of F)...you have CDEFF#GAB). (But minor in these songs, not major as the example I cave). The last one is more triadic, so less 7th chords. (which is why it's less soul/funk sounding than the others and more poppy)
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23rd December 2009
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I have no problem with drums, I can programm good rhythm using kick snare/clap + congas bongos + hh + triangle +'lazer gun' etc thanks a lot for your answers, I'll try it and tell you if it's ok...or not!  |
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26th December 2009
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| Gear nut  Joined: Aug 2007
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I like detuned 9th's, in blocks.
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26th December 2009
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| Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2006
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I like answering music theory questions... Minor 7ths and Major 7th Chords are big in R&B Feels... I have a prime example on my soundclick site, ill make it easy for you SoundClick artist: eSPee The Producer - The Next Super Producer the song is called "Cheating On Me" this song is in the key of E Minor... PROGRESSION: Em7 (E Minor 7th) CM7 (C Major 7th) Bm7 (B Minor 7th) Am7 (A Minor 7th) and you get a classy R&B Feel!!!
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26th December 2009
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ahah nice man! could you post (or someone else) some 'funky/disco' examples like you did? with mp3 + chords ? thats a good way to understand it! |
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28th December 2009
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| Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2006
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to tell u the truth, its not the CHORD that gives u the funk sound, its the instrument... Pull up a guitar on your keyboard and just play a simple minor chord, like C minor, play it with a funky rhythm and wallah u got the funk sound... |
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28th December 2009
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Between Harmony & Irregularity
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28th December 2009
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And a good somber (sad) progression, Ill use One Republics - Apologize Progression The song is in C Minor (the notes C,D,D#,F,G,G#,A#) are used (THIS IS THE RIGHT HAND PROGRESSION) Cm/G (C minor in its first inversion) the "/G" implies that G is in the bass position in this chord, so instead of C, D#, G... it is G, C, D# Fm add9/G# (F Minor add 9 chord) with a G# in the bass D#/G D# Major Chord with a G in the bass position A#6/G an A# 6 Chord with a G in the bass your left hand plays C, G#, D#, D... so in all reality the above chords couldve been written like this taking BOTH HANDS into account Cmin (your left hand plays the LOW C, right hand: G C D#) Fmadd9 /G# (left hand plays G#, right hand G, C, F) D# (Left hand plays D#, right hand plays G A# D#) A#6 /D (Left hand plays D, right hand plays G A# F) Put those chords together and you get one republic's - apologize pretty complex progression, but creates a POWERFUL sound... as a matter of fact, im making a new beat with this progression NOW!!! but in a diff key obviously  haha P.S. use this site for reference: Virtual Piano Chords -eSPee |
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28th December 2009
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| Gear addict Joined: Jul 2008
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I wanna 'happy chord' Sir  thanks! |
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28th December 2009
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| Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2006
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The Key of C Major: (C D E F G A B) [All the white keys] Chords That can be used in the C Major Scale [I will only list Triads (3 note chords)] C Major (C E G) D Minor (D F A) E Minor (E G B) F Major (F A C) G Major (G B D) A Minor (A C E) B diminished (B D F) as u can see if you want to make the happiest song is the world, you'd prolly play a simple progression like this: CMaj, FMaj, GMaj, GMaj (repeat) nothing but major chords makes nothing but happiness!!! but dont refrain from music the minor chords that the scale uses, wont make the track any less happy cuz like I said, its the major SCALE that gives the happiness feel, regaurdless of what chord your playing | |
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29th December 2009
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| Gear addict Joined: Jul 2008
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But, I don't know why, it's more complicated for that Classixx track (God, I love that track so much!), and I just dunno why :s I can hear a "bell" and the bass, but it's more complex when it comes to synth! Any good guy with good ears can help me!? | |
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29th December 2009
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2009
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Yo kem great advice , but make sure to adhere to proper enharmonic notation as in "(C,D,D#,F,G,G#,A#)" should be written as (C,D,Eb,F,G,Ab,Bb) in C minor. It kind of makes my head asplode to see sharps when the clef has flats |
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3rd January 2010
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27th January 2010
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try using an open chord... open meaning the notes are spread out... play C G C w/ your left hand and play Eb, C with your right hand... |
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