analog 909 hi hats

[crufty]

999 hats don't do it for me

sounds very harsh

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by golden beers

also you could look for an R 8 or R 8M

very cheap on ebay.

it has very classic techno hi hats. not exactly 909. but the ride is sublime. and the sound quality is just awesome

or you could just use my R8mk2 sample set....

http://asciibaron.dyndns.org/test/R-8_mk2.zip

[rasseru]

Originally Posted by blinky909

or you could just use my R8mk2 sample set....

http://asciibaron.dyndns.org/test/R-8_mk2.zip

thanks!


but its 404, file not found

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by rasseru

thanks!


but its 404, file not found

try it again.

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by blinky909

or you could just use my R8mk2 sample set....

http://asciibaron.dyndns.org/test/R-8_mk2.zip

sweet man!

i sold my r8 and didnt bother sampling.

did you post it on the share samples thread.? if not please do.
PS what converters did you use for this?

[covariance]

Originally Posted by atsushi_hoshiai

The Xbase09 HH is indeed a really good reproduction of the original. AFAIK it uses the same structure (heavily compressed samples + analog VCA). I guess, Juergen read out the data from the original ROMs.

Xbase is built of SMD components. This means not just smaller outfit but lack of audiophile quality. For example ceramic capacitors are used instead of film capacitors. Ceramic capacitors are better to avoid in audio applications because of their distortion and piezoelectric effect.
Jomox is a good design and quite cheap but with a compromise of less audio quality.

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by golden beers

sweet man!

i sold my r8 and didnt bother sampling.

did you post it on the share samples thread.? if not please do.
PS what converters did you use for this?

sampled into my MPC and saved as .wav files.

the link is not permanent.

crap - looks like some of the sounds aren't there - the file must have become corrupt... i'll get it sorted at some point - the samples are saved onto a ZIP disk and i need to get that all hooked up again.

[Akh]

Originally Posted by atsushi_hoshiai

. . .

You aren't by any chance the same Atsushi Hoshiai working for Roland's R&D department, are you? I've seen your name attached to a few Roland patents involving sampling techniques and tone generators, as well as a few other things. If you're willing (and legally able) to do a Q&A I'm sure a number of people on this forum would appreciate your insights in to Roland, the industry in general and the technology.

[covariance]

Mr. 909 himself? What a lucky bastards we are
Mr.909

[Akh]

I didn't realize Atsushi Hoshiai was the man behind the 909! That's awesome! Q&A or not I have this to say to the man: THANK YOU! Your work has been influential over the music industry, and myself personally, in ways that I cannot measure.

[Syn303]

Originally Posted by covariance

Mr. 909 himself? What a lucky bastards we are
Mr.909

Now if only we could get Tadao Kikumoto to join GS

[atsushi_hoshiai]

lol sorry for the "atushi hoshiai confusion"

Unfortunately I hafta diappoint you guys. In fact I'm the guy behind that 909-site where the pic of Mr-909 is shown. I'm using this name for many years now and it's the first time, someome finds the connection between the name and the 909 or Roland. Ok, in this forum it might happen much quicker, but that's cool.

What I know is that Atsushi is a member of the huge Roland R&D department and he was involved in the 909 development. There was an interview with him in the german keyboard magazine back in the 90ies.
Anyway I tried to contact him some years ago. I found his e-mail address somewhere. At that time I was working for japanese company NEC and I tried to contact him through some kind of company to company mail. Unfortunately he didn't answer, but since NEC is also a japanese company and I know much about japanese company culture and I know it's hard to contact japanese guys, you didn't deal before, even when they're in the same company....

[evosilica]

Originally Posted by atsushi_hoshiai

When playing both HH together it gave a pretty cool flanging effect, showing that there are very minimal differences between both channels.
When switching between both channels, both HH did sound identical...

That's just impossible. The XBase is just a cheap copy with SMD components, so it sounds harsh and weak and totally unusable. No way it could ever replicate the sample-based sounds of a 909.

Yes I am a troll

[Acid Hazard]

The short end of it is, you're not gonna find anything that sounds like the 909 hi hats in the analogue realm. Some of the best analogue hi hats are in the MFB-503 drum machine.

[lauschepper]

Originally Posted by Acid Hazard

The short end of it is, you're not gonna find anything that sounds like the 909 hi hats in the analogue realm. Some of the best analogue hi hats are in the MFB-503 drum machine.

just got mine yesterday, the cymbals (like the hats) are sample based but they are damn sweet!

[Acid Hazard]

I don't know why i wrote that they were analogue hi hats, cause they're not

But they are some of the best hi hats around =o]