Why have Spectrasonics skimped on the synth part of Trillian!?

[jonnypowell]

So I was super excited about todays release of Trillian but am incredibly disapponted by the synth side which is the draw-card for me. There us something like a total of 50 presets. I know there are heaps of individual wave-form samples, but where are the patches? I'm crossing my fingers that there will be an update with hundreds of new patches in the very near future..

[babymoog]

Heya Jonny - what's up mate! Glen C here.

Stoked to hear Trillian is out ... no more ridiculous CPU usage to get those great elec bass samples on Mac under the crappy VST wrapper mode for Trilogy.

Bummer about the synth bass section, although I just got a Minimoog recently so actually enjoying doing all my synth bass with the real thing now

[loglady]

they'll do some juicy updates like i think they did for omni

[allcentury]

...

Will there be more new synth patches?
Yes!
The current 1.0 library is just a small demo library of the synth capabilities of Trilian. Hundreds of new patches will be released shortly and we also plan to add many more in the future.

[MIDIhead]

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

So I was super excited about todays release of Trillian but am incredibly disapponted by the synth side which is the draw-card for me. There us something like a total of 50 presets. I know there are heaps of individual wave-form samples, but where are the patches? I'm crossing my fingers that there will be an update with hundreds of new patches in the very near future..

It's super-easy to make your own with what's there too. Lot's and lot's of control. But yea, there is more tasty goodness to come. Meanwhile, pop open that edit screen and have some fun!

Best,

[jonnypowell]

Originally Posted by MIDIhead

It's super-easy to make your own with what's there too. Lot's and lot's of control. But yea, there is more tasty goodness to come. Meanwhile, pop open that edit screen and have some fun!

Best,

Don't get me wrong I love bacing my own patches and combining different synths wave-forms etc - I do this all the time in Omnisphere, and come up with some great results, but still I'm no Eric Persing if you get my drift..

So do we know for sure there will be an update for Synth presets in the near future or is that speculation?

[composingkeys3]

Trilian definitely will have some more synth patches in a later update. Details as to when this will be out have not been announced. For now, however, enjoy the content that is there. There are already some very inspiring patches that the Spectrasonics team have developed !

[Dr.Wu]

true
the 45 included synthpatches are a great appetizer.
I especially like the ones that use the arpeggiator.
Instant electro!
I am sure Spectrasonics will keep their promise and release more patches real soon.
For now there is already a lot of great stuff to keep me busy on the low end.

[spectrum]

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

So I was super excited about todays release of Trillian but am incredibly disapponted by the synth side which is the draw-card for me. There us something like a total of 50 presets. I know there are heaps of individual wave-form samples, but where are the patches? I'm crossing my fingers that there will be an update with hundreds of new patches in the very near future..

No worries....there will be hundreds of patches by the end of the week and many, many, many more as the months go on.

The important thing to get right are the soundsources, so that's what we focused on in getting the masters out the door. Patches are easy to add, soundsources are not.

Over 30 models of synths and 333 soundsources already. :-)

The synth part of Trilian is SUPER Killer and you'll love all the new models and what you can do with the new filters and the custom controls.

Check out the Interface and Synth videos here:

Spectrasonics - Trilian - Videos

I think you'll dig it. Enjoy! :-)

spectrum

[spectrum]

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

Don't get me wrong I love bacing my own patches and combining different synths wave-forms etc - I do this all the time in Omnisphere, and come up with some great results, but still I'm no Eric Persing if you get my drift..

So do we know for sure there will be an update for Synth presets in the near future or is that speculation?

Yes....the first update will be out by the end of the week and there will be several big synth patch library updates this year.

Believe me, you are going to be choking in awesome synth goodness incredibly soon. ;-)

[spectrum]

This is the list of the synth soundsources in Trilian....it's hardly skimping. :-)

It's more synth models and waves than any other synth bass product in fact. :-)

SYNTH BASS
- 333 Soundsources

ARP 2600 Narrow Pulse
ARP 2600 Pulse
ARP 2600 PWM
ARP 2600 Sawtooth
ARP 2600 Sine
ARP 2600 Square
ARP 2600 Triangle
ATC Scanner Bass
Bass Station Acid Sweep a
Bass Station Acid Sweep b
Bass Station Detuned Medium
Bass Station Detuned Tight
Bass Station Detuned Wide
Bass Station Octavia
Bass Station Power PWM 1
Bass Station Power PWM 2
Bass Station Unstable Square
Cwejman Barking Swede
Cwejman Broils
Cwejman Deep Swede
Cwejman Feedbacker
Cwejman Fizzfoam
Cwejman Plastique
Cwejman Raging Swedes
Cwejman Snapper RR
Cwejman Street Bass 1
Cwejman Street Bass 2
Cwejman Thin Punk
Cwejman Zap Swede
Little Phatty Blatt Pulse
Little Phatty Blatt Square
Little Phatty Body Ripper
Little Phatty Bursting Pulsation
Little Phatty Electrobaby
Little Phatty Electrogirl
Little Phatty Electrohead
Little Phatty Face Ripper
Little Phatty Melodia
Little Phatty Momma Square
Little Phatty Nasal Pulse
Little Phatty Rude French
Little Phatty Snapper
Little Phatty Sync Pulse
Little Phatty Thinny
Little Phatty Whipper
Little Phatty Wretched
Metasonix Assblaster 1
Metasonix Assblaster 2
Metasonix Burble 1
Metasonix Burble 2
Metasonix Chord 1
Metasonix Chord 2
Metasonix Chord 3
Metasonix Chord 4
Metasonix Electron Pain 1
Metasonix Electron Pain 2
Metasonix Electron Pain 3
Metasonix Electron Pain 4
Metasonix FX Scream 1
Metasonix FX Scream 2
Metasonix FX Scream 3
Metasonix FX Scream 4
Metasonix FX Scream 5 Wide
Metasonix FX Zap 1
Metasonix FX Zap 2
Metasonix FX Zap 3
Metasonix FX Zap 4
Metasonix FX Zap 5
Metasonix FX Zap 6
Metasonix FX Zap 7
Metasonix FX Zap 8
Metasonix High Voltage 1
Metasonix High Voltage 2
Metasonix High Voltage 3
Metasonix Magic 1
Metasonix Magic 2
Metasonix Magic 3
Metasonix Portasweep 1
Metasonix Portasweep 2
Metasonix Portasweep 3
Metasonix Portasweep 4
Metasonix Portasweep 5
Metasonix Portasweep 6
Metasonix Portatone 1
Metasonix Portatone 2
Metasonix Portatone 3
Metasonix Portatone 4
Metasonix Portatone 5
Metasonix Portatone 6
Metasonix Portatone 7
Metasonix Portatone 8
Metasonix Radiostatic
Metasonix Raw Buzzer
Metasonix Raw Sync
Metasonix Rawness 1
Metasonix Rawness 2
Metasonix Rawness 3
Metasonix Rawness 4
Metasonix Rudeness 1
Metasonix Rudeness 2
Metasonix Rudeness 3
Metasonix Rudeness 4
Metasonix Rudeness 5
Metasonix Throat Sync
Metasonix Tonebass Dark 1
Metasonix Tonebass Dark 2
Metasonix Tonebass Duo 1
Metasonix Tonebass Duo 2
Metasonix Tonebass Duo 3
Metasonix Tonebass Nasal
Metasonix Tonebass Thin 1
Metasonix Tonebass Thin 2
Metasonix Tonebass Thin 3
Metasonix Vibracheese
Minimoog Triple Snap Sync
Mophomonster
Mophomuscle
MS-20 Complexus a
MS-20 Complexus b
MS-20 Detuned Pulse
MS-20 Narrow Pulse Glide
MS-20 Narrow Pulse
MS-20 Pulse
MS-20 Sawtooth
MS-20 Square
MS-20 Triangle
SE-1 Cosmic Hanna
SE-1 Doctah Deep Stuff a
SE-1 Doctah Deep Stuff b
SE-1 Inglewood
SE-1 Intervallic
SE-1 Moogey
SE-1 Raw Detuner
SE-1 Razor
SE-1 Saw Sub
SE-1 Snappy Hanna
SE-1 Sub Square
TB-303 Sawtooth Accent
TB-303 Sawtooth
TB-303 Square Accent
TB-303 Square
Tetra Armageddon a
Tetra Armageddon b
Tetra Jarre
Tetra Talking Throat a
Tetra Talking Throat b
Tetra Unisquares
TR-Alpha Juno Comb Saw *
TR-Alpha Juno Sub *
TR-ARP 2600 Sine *
TR-ARP 2600 Triangle *
TR-ARP Odyssey Detuner *
TR-ARP Odyssey Mellow *
TR-ARP Odyssey Organish *
TR-ARP Odyssey Pulse *
TR-ARP Odyssey Reso Square *
TR-ARP Odyssey Saw *
TR-ARP Odyssey Square *
TR-ARP Odyssey Super Funk *
TR-ARP Odyssey Synk *
TR-ATC Chameleon *
TR-ATC Deep *
TR-ATC Ultra Rez Saw *
TR-ATC Worm Ow *
TR-CS80 Big Octave *
TR-CS80 Big Squares *
TR-CS80 Dre Bass *
TR-CS80 Rez *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 01 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 02 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 03 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 04 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 05 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 06 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 07 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 08 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 09 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 10 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 11 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 12 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 13 *
TR-CS80 Ring Mod 14 *
TR-CS80 Saw Thin *
TR-CS80 Sub Noise *
TR-Custom Sawtooth *
TR-Generated Sawtooth *
TR-Generated Sine Wave *
TR-Generated Square *
TR-Indigo Arrggh Sync *
TR-Indigo Blitzkreig *
TR-Indigo Blue Tube *
TR-Indigo Code Blue *
TR-Indigo Foghorn *
TR-Indigo Juice Goose *
TR-Indigo Mulch *
TR-Indigo StereOverload *
TR-JP8 Square *
TR-JP8 Triangle *
TR-Juno 106 Bass Comb *
TR-Juno 106 Noise *
TR-Juno 106 Saw *
TR-Juno 106 Square *
TR-Juno 106 Sub *
TR-Juno 60 80s Square Sub *
TR-Juno 60 Deep *
TR-Juno 60 Fat Chorus *
TR-Juno 60 Hoover Chorus *
TR-Juno 60 Mean Sub *
TR-Juno 60 Organ Sub *
TR-Juno 60 Power Sub *
TR-Juno 60 Pulse Sub *
TR-Juno 60 PWM Saw Filter *
TR-Juno 60 PWM Saw Open *
TR-Juno 60 Saw Sub *
TR-Juno 60 Sawtooth *
TR-Juno 60 Square *
TR-Juno 60 Sub Pure *
TR-Juno 60 Tweezer Rez *
TR-Juno 60 Wide Pulse *
TR-Minimoog Big Ol Moog *
TR-Minimoog Classic Resobass *
TR-Minimoog Deep Ballad *
TR-Minimoog Deep Cream 2OSC *
TR-Minimoog Deep Cream 3OSC *
TR-Minimoog Deep Point Bass *
TR-Minimoog Deep Sine Bass *
TR-Minimoog Funky Square *
TR-Minimoog Growler *
TR-Minimoog Narrow Pulse *
TR-Minimoog Nasty *
TR-Minimoog Octabass waves *
TR-Minimoog Pink Noise *
TR-Minimoog Power Growl *
TR-Minimoog Pulse *
TR-Minimoog Saws med 2OSC *
TR-Minimoog Saws med 3OSC *
TR-Minimoog Saws tight 2OSC *
TR-Minimoog Saws tight 3OSC *
TR-Minimoog Saws wide 2OSC *
TR-Minimoog Saws wide 3OSC *
TR-Minimoog Sawtooth *
TR-Minimoog Snappy Moog *
TR-Minimoog Square *
TR-Minimoog Sync Bass 1 *
TR-Minimoog Sync Bass 2 *
TR-Minimoog Triangle *
TR-Minimoog White Noise *
TR-Moog Taurus Classic Bright *
TR-Moog Taurus Classic Deep *
TR-Moog Taurus Pedals Bright Saws *
TR-Moog Taurus Pedals Medium *
TR-Moog Taurus Pedals Saw Bright *
TR-Moog Taurus Pedals Saw Dark *
TR-Moog Taurus Pedals Sub Tuba *
TR-Moog Taurus Pedals Wide *
TR-Moog Taurus Reso Sweep *
TR-Moog Voyager Dual LP med *
TR-Moog Voyager Dual LP Narrow Saw *
TR-Moog Voyager Dual LP Square *
TR-Moog Voyager Dual LP wide *
TR-Moog Voyager Lucky Squares *
TR-Moog Voyager Octamoog *
TR-Moog Voyager Rich Texture *
TR-Moog Voyager Sawtooth *
TR-Moog Voyager Sick Sync *
TR-Moog Voyager Square *
TR-Oberheim SEM Big Tom *
TR-Oberheim SEM Dual Sweep *
TR-Oberheim SEM Juice *
TR-Oberheim SEM Octabrite *
TR-Oberheim SEM Octobass *
TR-Oberheim SEM Pulse *
TR-Oberheim SEM Rapper *
TR-Oberheim SEM Rez *
TR-Oberheim SEM Saw *
TR-Oberheim SEM Saws Med *
TR-Oberheim SEM Saws Wide *
TR-Oberheim SEM Sharp Square *
TR-Oberheim SEM Square *
TR-Oberheim SEM Wet One *
TR-Omega Edge Buzz *
TR-Omega Hip Hop Buzz *
TR-Omega Hollow Unison *
TR-Omega Huge PWM *
TR-Omega Nasal X-Mod *
TR-Omega Triple Octaver *
TR-Omega Wide Valley *
TR-Omega X-Mod Aliaz *
TR-OSCar Big Boy *
TR-OSCar Blown Square *
TR-OSCar Blown Tubes *
TR-OSCar Fuzz Ballz *
TR-OSCar Garbage Triangle *
TR-OSCar Ghetto Blaster *
TR-OSCar Reed Overdrive *
TR-OSCar Unstable Square *
TR-OSCar Wide Death *
TR-PPG Sync Bomb *
TR-Pro One Octave *
TR-Pro One Wide PWM *
TR-Prophet 5 Noise *
TR-Prophet 5 Saw *
TR-Prophet 5 Square *
TR-SH101 Acid Sweep *
TR-SH101 Deep *
TR-SH101 Euro Bass *
TR-SH101 Fat PWM *
TR-SH101 Fat Saw *
TR-SH101 Mean PW *
TR-SH101 Narrow Pulse Sub *
TR-SH101 Pulse *
TR-SH101 Square *
TR-SH101 Squaw *
TR-SH101 Sub Osc *
TR-SH101 Super Click *
TR-SH101 Super Pulse *
TR-Sine Wave *
TR-TB303 Saw *
TR-TB303 Square *
TR-Unrespected Model *
TR-Viral Beefcake *
TR-Virus 101 *
TR-Virus Mutha *
TR-Virus Prodigy *
TR-VS Unison Wide *
Waldorf Pulse Big Saw
Waldorf Pulse Big Square
Waldorf Pulse Bright Saw
Waldorf Pulse Dark Pulse
Waldorf Pulse Deeply Sinister
Waldorf Pulse Detuner
Waldorf Pulse No ID
Waldorf Pulse Uber Saws

....and that's just the raw materials.... :-)

[jonnypowell]

Thanks a lot for your detailed responses Eric. Really appreciate it!
it's great that you get so involved in the forums etc

Anywayz,
Just got home with my copy then.. Excited!!

[jonnypowell]

Originally Posted by babymoog

Heya Jonny - what's up mate! Glen C here.

Stoked to hear Trillian is out ... no more ridiculous CPU usage to get those great elec bass samples on Mac under the crappy VST wrapper mode for Trilogy.

Bummer about the synth bass section, although I just got a Minimoog recently so actually enjoying doing all my synth bass with the real thing now

Hey mate!
What's happening!?

[digital 1010]

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

Thanks a lot for your detailed responses Eric. Really appreciate it!
it's great that you get so involved in the forums etc

Anywayz,
Just got home with my copy then.. Excited!!

Give us a heads up when you have tested it. I get the free update as intel mac user so its a no brainer for me. Wasn't super excited about the update but after watching the synth videos above am def excited to sort my update now.

Ben

[SWAN808]

it looks pretty sweet. a must have I would say.

[FritzyCakes]

Hey party people.

Just wondering if any of you might know why i'm having install/update issues? I've already checked the spectrasonics knowledge base and send a support request...But I'm antsy....

When I try to do the updates It fails and gives me the "preflight script" error.

I'm on a MAC/10.5.8 (Steam is on external drive)

In the knowledge base is says I need to choose the install location of the folder CONTAINING the STEAM folder..... But the installer doesn't give me the option of choosing a specific folder - it only lets me choose the drives. I've tried moving the steam folder to the root menu of the drive (and creating the alias etc) but the update install still fails...

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

[Bio]

This is the list of the synth soundsources in Trilian....it's hardly skimping. :-)

From what I have read, Metasonix wasn't aware of the use of it's name and synth.
What about Cwejman and Moog LP, SE etc...?

Definitely not fair to use them without permission.

[jonnypowell]

Originally Posted by Bio

From what I have read, Metasonix wasn't aware of the use of it's name and synth.
What about Cwejman and Moog LP, SE etc...?

Definitely not fair to use them without permission.

Not fair?? It's the best form of advertising ever!
Imagine how many people get inspired by some of the patches made from these synths and go out and buy the real deal..
I know Trilogy had that affect on me.

[Bio]

Sorry, I don't see this that way, The analogue market is small, even very small for brand like Metasonix, some people will prefer to buy Trillian instead of several synths.

And the point is to inform them, it shouldn't be otherwise.

And more important : Eric from Metasonix doesn't seem to be pleased...

[loglady]

Originally Posted by Bio

And more important : Eric from Metasonix doesn't seem to be pleased...

he didnt actually say that, he just said he had no idea that they were using Metasonix.

It's great advertising for metasonix, nobody who was going to buy a wretch would settle for a few patches on trilogy.

[d1rtynyc]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

it looks pretty sweet. a must have I would say.

I agree.
I am going to get it next month.

[hubiedubie]

The synth video looks excellent. I wasn't going to buy this but after seeing the video I think I will stump up. Quick question for anybody that owns the product / works for Spectrasonics:
Do I have to install the Trillian library in exactly the same location as my Omnisphere library? My omnisphere library is on an SSD which is very close to running out of space. If I install to a different drive, will I still be able to open the Trillian patches / sound sources from within Omnisphere?

[MIDIhead]

Originally Posted by FritzyCakes

Hey party people.

Just wondering if any of you might know why i'm having install/update issues? I've already checked the spectrasonics knowledge base and send a support request...But I'm antsy....

When I try to do the updates It fails and gives me the "preflight script" error.

I'm on a MAC/10.5.8 (Steam is on external drive)

In the knowledge base is says I need to choose the install location of the folder CONTAINING the STEAM folder..... But the installer doesn't give me the option of choosing a specific folder - it only lets me choose the drives. I've tried moving the steam folder to the root menu of the drive (and creating the alias etc) but the update install still fails...

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

Hey FritzyCakes,

You are choosing the "custom install" option, correct? If you use that option, you should be able to navigate to your external drive and choose the folder that is one level above the STEAM folder. You will need to do this for every disc installer you run. Just make sure you don't select the STEAM folder itself as the destination and it should work.

Best,

[dezai]

I received my copy yesterday and the sound and amount of content is almost overwhelming.

This thing sounds sooooo good omg

[Dr.Wu]

I posted a bunch of Trilian demosongs on my vimeopage
shows a tiny bit of the variety you get with the package
Trilian on Vimeo
one of the clips features exclusively the synthstuff
(Electrilian)

[digital 1010]

Just ordered mine. £18.00 Approx for full upgrade as only had to pay shipping . Love it!!!

Ben

[jonnypowell]

Does anybody know ho to make it play in polyphonic mode?
I've changed the number of voices on the edit pages, but i can't use it to play chords..

Any ideas??

[SWAN808]

Originally Posted by jonnypowell

Does anybody know ho to make it play in polyphonic mode?
I've changed the number of voices on the edit pages, but i can't use it to play chords..

Any ideas??

do you have any SOLO button pressed in the portamento section?

[SWAN808]

Does Trillian do any Round Robin sample selection in the Synth bass samples to make it sound more natural? Or alternative sample start point?

[loglady]

Yeah thats what the old Trilogy lacked. hope these features are included in Trillian.

Can anyone tell me how trillian would run on a 2gb ram 2.4quad pc?
System req. is 4gb ram, - just how bloodthirsty is this one?

Is there a 'delay' evrytime you filck through the sounds like there was on omnisphere?