Boom Boom Pow Black Eyed Peas Kick

[CJ1973]

Can anyone tell me what the kick drum sound on this record is? I understand there are a few tunings of the same sound. To me, it sounds partially 808-ish but is more electro. It sort of takes me back to 90s kick dance kick drum sounds (aka. Corona etc). Anyone?

[ohmicide]

i don't think this really needed a thread honestly that kick is so generic and so is the whole song

wont take more than 5 minutes looking to get something similar

don't get me wrong i think it's a catchy tune, but yeahh

[CJ1973]

5 minutes later...
Okay.. thanks. so where is it from?
Lets be positive please. Im sure nearly every slut on this forum would love the $ it is making, rather than trying to sell solo tunes on itunes..
Anyways, I dont care about the song. I care about the kick sound. Its not generic. Its DEFINITELY not generic. It has a certain color to it that is not 808, that is not 909. Its bouncy like 808 but has a nice electro sheen to it.. so anyone else? please.

Originally Posted by alehoe

i don't think this really needed a thread honestly that kick is so generic and so i the whole song

wont take more than 5 minutes looking to get something similar

don't get me wrong i think it's a catchy tune, but yeahh

[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by CJ1973

Im sure nearly every slut on this forum would love the $ it is making, rather than trying to sell solo tunes on itunes..

i really really really doubt that song is making money because of the kick drum

unless you mean the sub kick?

[SupaBad]

Its a compressed 808 Kick

[CJ1973]

I want to agree with you. I have tried various 808 tunings and compressed etc. But cannot get that tone. I have heard that tone in 90s tracks (Rhythm of the Night by Corona has a feel of it) so I think there may be a sample that is similar to sounds from then. Just not sure.....

Originally Posted by SupaBad

Its a compressed 808 Kick

[M_Teus]

I totally agree that the song in question is uninteresting. But this is gearslutz and sound production and the individual samples of songs should be discussed...

Yeah, agree that the kick has something of that Corona sound. That particular sound, which sounds somewhat like an 808 kick, is created on a synth using full rez with almost closed filter, and with the appropriate settings for ADSR. Not all analog synths are great at creating that particular sound, not my Nordlead for example, but old Roland SH series synths can make them, or certainly a Pro1. There are loads of samples around. Search!
But in the mix of "Boom boom" it might very possibly be layered with other sounds too.

[spunkadellic]

apple loop -

dance kick 27

[lhm1138]

Originally Posted by spunkadellic

apple loop -

dance kick 27

LOL

That's so 2000 and Late.

Lamest lyrics EVER. BEP tried a lot harder before they sold out and started shucking and jiving in commercials for junk food and department stores.

[tbruckshut215]

Hey, this track was mixed by Dylan "3D" Dresdow, and it was covered in depth in the July issue of Sound on Sound Magazine. You can read the whole article online but you have to be a subscriber:

Secrets Of The Mix Engineers: Dylan ‘3D’ Dresdow

As for the drums in the track, this is what he said:

Drums: SPL Transient Designer, API 550B
“The main drum parts on ‘Boom Boom Pow’ were the 808 bass drum, a 909 clap, and a loop. I used the SPL Transient Designer to tweak the attacks of the drums. It’s stellar for punchy envelope compression on kicks and snares. A lot of the time when working on the album I’d mult the kick drum and mult the snare, compress them really hard, and roll off a lot of high and low end, so they became very mid-rangey, and I’d put a tight gate on them. I’d sculpt the attack in this way and would add this into the track. It made the drums sound very punchy. I also applied the API 550B EQ to all drums, mostly for yet more mid-range punch. The 550B is really tight-sounding, ideal for a song like ‘Boom Boom Pow’, in which I needed to have nice attacks on the kick. If a loop sounded muddy, I’d cut around 240Hz; if I wanted more woody knock, I’d boost at 700 or 800 Hz.”

[CJ1973]

Interesting indeed. Thanks for the info. I guess even the Engineer probably would call it the 808 bass drum but it just may have come out of an old analog synth. I have a Jomox which generates a similar tone when played around with so maybe that is the case but referred to as an 808 kick (producer secrets) and honestly, the mixing engineer really doesn't need to worry about where it's from right.... awesome info on the processing using SPL and API. Thanks again!!!

Originally Posted by tbruckshut215

Hey, this track was mixed by Dylan "3D" Dresdow, and it was covered in depth in the July issue of Sound on Sound Magazine. You can read the whole article online but you have to be a subscriber:

Secrets Of The Mix Engineers: Dylan ‘3D’ Dresdow

As for the drums in the track, this is what he said:

Drums: SPL Transient Designer, API 550B
“The main drum parts on ‘Boom Boom Pow’ were the 808 bass drum, a 909 clap, and a loop. I used the SPL Transient Designer to tweak the attacks of the drums. It’s stellar for punchy envelope compression on kicks and snares. A lot of the time when working on the album I’d mult the kick drum and mult the snare, compress them really hard, and roll off a lot of high and low end, so they became very mid-rangey, and I’d put a tight gate on them. I’d sculpt the attack in this way and would add this into the track. It made the drums sound very punchy. I also applied the API 550B EQ to all drums, mostly for yet more mid-range punch. The 550B is really tight-sounding, ideal for a song like ‘Boom Boom Pow’, in which I needed to have nice attacks on the kick. If a loop sounded muddy, I’d cut around 240Hz; if I wanted more woody knock, I’d boost at 700 or 800 Hz.”

[fallforward]

"...roll off a lot of high and low end, so they became very mid-rangey...I also applied the API 550B EQ to all drums, mostly for yet more mid-range punch."

...and mostly so it will sound best as an .mp3 and crappy cpu speakers.

Smart...definitely...

Sad... it makes me a little.

[schnerg]

Originally Posted by alehoe

i really really really doubt that song is making money because of the kick drum

unless you mean the sub kick?

[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by tbruckshut215

808 bass drum, a 909 clap, and a loop.

he mixed a 808 kick and a 909 clap??? isn't that like dividing by zero?!

[crufty]

reading closer, it actually says its a mult of kick and snare

[CJ1973]

909 clap takes away the hiphop sound and makes it more dance.
808 kick still keeps that 'boom boom'...
but if you listen to the song, .....lol.. it has a 808 snare which is so darn crispy too at certain sections..

Originally Posted by alehoe

he mixed a 808 kick and a 909 clap??? isn't that like dividing by zero?!

[CJ1973]

Couldnt agree more with you. It's definitely catered at that market. which is why I keep questioning the texture of the kick sound. Its mixed like that, processed like that and I think the texture (origin) is not true 808... we are definitely getting somewhere.....!

Originally Posted by fallforward

"...roll off a lot of high and low end, so they became very mid-rangey...I also applied the API 550B EQ to all drums, mostly for yet more mid-range punch."

...and mostly so it will sound best as an .mp3 and crappy cpu speakers.
.

[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by CJ1973

909 clap takes away the hiphop sound and makes it more dance.
808 kick still keeps that 'boom boom'...
but if you listen to the song, .....lol.. it has a 808 snare which is so darn crispy too at certain sections..

seriously??? oh man im gonna go make a song like that!

wait, i already did

dangerous.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage

gotta love my remix of a cover, should be on the radio

[sctt_stone]

I for one was blown away by the song the first time that I heard it.

They are the only HipHop group getting radio play that do not sound like a bunk of punk ass ghetto wanna bes.

William at least seems to be an actual musician.

We should all be glad that they are around to balance out the rest of the bullshit that passes for music that Americans are listening to now.

[CJ1973]

No Thanks. Good for you though. I would prefer to listen to Black eyed Peas with the limited time I have. Sorry. As for doof heads who think a kick drum doesnt add to the equation in making something a hit, think.!!!
The title of the song speaks for it self, hence the 808s. Obviously alot better than doing covers.

Originally Posted by alehoe

seriously??? oh man im gonna go make a song like that!

wait, i already did

dangerous.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage

gotta love my remix of a cover, should be on the radio

[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by CJ1973

No Thanks. Good for you though. I would prefer to listen to Black eyed Peas with the limited time I have. Sorry. As for doof heads who think a kick drum doesnt add to the equation in making something a hit, think.!!!
The title of the song speaks for it self, hence the 808s. Obviously alot better than doing covers.

gosh you're so cool it just hurts

and yeah, i definitely covered an akon song

perhaps you don't know how to read? you're still cool though

[alexp]

Its an 808.

YouTube - Black Eyed Peas Ft. AlexP - Boom Boom Pow



alexP

[ohmicide]

[pyvnd]

My 2 year old nephew likes this song. Just saying.

[Don Solaris]

Originally Posted by CJ1973

Can anyone tell me what the kick drum sound on this record is? I understand there are a few tunings of the same sound. To me, it sounds partially 808-ish but is more electro. It sort of takes me back to 90s kick dance kick drum sounds (aka. Corona etc). Anyone?

Not sure what's so mysterious about that song. Even a noob can hear 808 kick and snare + 909 clap. Hell even the guy in the songs says: "808"!!

If you can't afford transient designer, just take the kick and apply volume envelope in the front part (to get the click). For more click, apply a pitch envelope as well. Process with compressor. Try different compression thresholds till you find the best "sound".

Or. If you are really lazy, then take the 808 kick, transpose it 2 octaves up, borrow few transients from there and apply them to original 808 kick. You got instant BEP kick.

[lhm1138]

[CJ1973]

I am curious to know if you have actually used an original analog 808? Or yet alone, tried out 808 samples from Goldbaby (closest in my opinion) or listened to any recent Jermaine Dupri produced records for Mariah Carey. I have tried out compression, eq and with the transient designer with my UAD-2 plugins and it's not that close. BEP kick is very hard. I understand that the 3rd kick has an 808 sound to it and the snare is totally but the kick is way too woody and colored to be an OG 808. I definitely trust Britney Spears (lol) when she says 'Opps I did it again' but am not sure if I could trust BEP saying 808 and it being an OG 808 kick processed. William is famous for using all sorts of samples and doesnt sequence one bit. Its all placed on the grid as audio rather than even sequencing on a machine, because he is so fast at it apparently. Anyways, this is not the point. Please listen to the OG 808 and let me know if that can be tweeked to get this exact woody tone/punch or if you actually think there is something underneath it.

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

Not sure what's so mysterious about that song. Even a noob can hear 808 kick and snare + 909 clap. Hell even the guy in the songs says: "808"!!

If you can't afford transient designer, just take the kick and apply volume envelope in the front part (to get the click). For more click, apply a pitch envelope as well. Process with compressor. Try different compression thresholds till you find the best "sound".

Or. If you are really lazy, then take the 808 kick, transpose it 2 octaves up, borrow few transients from there and apply them to original 808 kick. You got instant BEP kick.

[CJ1973]

Are you saying that first you tune the 808 to be in the key of the song, then transpose that 2 octaves? Btw, If I was lazy why am I trying to get so anal over a kick? I would just leave it right? I am trying to get that exact tone as I enjoy studying what the current producers are doing.

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

Or. If you are really lazy, then take the 808 kick, transpose it 2 octaves up, borrow few transients from there and apply them to original 808 kick. You got instant BEP kick.

[CJ1973]

haha.. this guy thinks Black Eyed Peas care about credibility in the Hiphop community, while they are originally from Los Feliz in LA, a very arty area and have a lot of influences in their music. They are definitely not from Compton nor South LA nor Inglewood or Long Beach. That stuff is out dated. BEP are in with current trends and dance is big. So they are doing a dance-ish number. As for repetitive lyrics, so what. They know probably know they have a dumb audience. Oh lets not forget. The song is a US#1. Alot better than what any critic could come up with imo. Its SUNDAY!

Originally Posted by lhm1138

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by CJ1973

haha.. this guy thinks Black Eyed Peas care about credibility in the Hiphop community, while they are originally from Los Feliz in LA, a very arty area and have a lot of influences in their music. They are definitely not from Compton nor South LA nor Inglewood or Long Beach. That stuff is out dated. BEP are in with current trends and dance is big. So they are doing a dance-ish number. As for repetitive lyrics, so what. They know probably know they have a dumb audience. Oh lets not forget. The song is a US#1. Alot better than what any critic could come up with imo. Its SUNDAY!

I don't think will is from los feliz. I met him once at the watts boys and girls club, where I volunteered sometimes. the whole group was there for a xmas party, I think. when will spoke (in front of all the kids) he said that this particular club had done a lot for him and that he wanted to give back. he planned to buy them a lot of equipment, but i haven't been back to see if he did or not. anyway, watts is a far cry from los feliz. and fergie is from hacienda heights (off the 60 fwy), which ain't los feliz, either.

but no one is going to call them the voice of the streets. i got nothin' for love for anybody that can pay the bills from music, to say nothing of getting rich doing it. his only mistake was not including me in the group!