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| Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece
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| External audio input for the Minimoog Voyager So, for a certain patch that I have made, I have a cable running from the headphone output back into the external input. Headphone level is 255, external audio is something like 110. Below 110, I get a noticeable beefup, at 110 it starts to overdrive and it sounds ok. Above 110 there is some absolutely AWESOME overdrive, it needs to be heard to be believed! The problem is that alongside with the yummy overdrive I get a lot of tones (maybe 2 octaves below) that mess up with the signal. If I lower the input, things are clearer but the yummy sound is gone. I have tried to lower the levels of the oscillators running into the mixer but it doesn't sound ok, the timbre is altered a lot. Any ideas here, how to clear this completely and still get the awesome overdrive? I have thought about connecting an equalizer between the headphones and the external audio input to cut the low frequencies. What else could help? A compressor maybe? Thanks, Yannis
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| Can't really be done. The same thing that's causing the nice tone is causing the unwanted tones - the overdrive is creating all sorts of harmonics which you can't really separate because if you EQ the headphone output you're affecting the filter input which is creating the feedback. You can a) try to recreate the wanted patch with synthesis but you'd probably need a modular. b) try to recreate the unwanted tone then mix it out of phase with the patch that you already have... but you'd probably need a modular. The short and long answer is... GET A MODULAR, spend about a decade learning how to reeeeeally use it, then get really really close but never quite there, buy more and more modules to try and perfect that tone, leaving no time to shower or go to work, lose your job, end up living under a railway bridge with only your modular for warmth, running it off stolen power that you almost get electrocuted by trying to rig it up from the railway tracks, and eventually die a slow, lonely death in the cold with tinnitus. Just give it up, man. Before it's too late. Seriously.
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The safe way to do it is to use the right output signal into the external input. | |
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| try putting an overdrive in the feedback chain and you will get a heavier sound at lover volume levels. also - an aural exciter/bbe maximiser works great for the harmonic quality of the sound in the same chain. |
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I have tried routing the left output into the external in. It doesn't work, the timbre is very different.
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| Would you really want to run the Voyager into a BBE unit? |
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| yes - i would run it through a BBE/Aphex - and have - then again i've also run it through a ZVEX Fuzz factory - and believe me when i say that thing can really rape the arse out of the moog. but back on the subject - if you heard what an exciter can do you would consider it - there's no need to be snobby - lets face it if your music is succesfull - it will end up on iTunes as an mp3 mmmmmmm |
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| are you flipping the bird? ![]() ![]() ![]() - get a grip on it - is english your second language or something?Last edited by bleepbleep; 2nd September 2009 at 09:23 PM.. Reason: obviuosly it is |
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| Yes it is. How about you?
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| Hehe, man. I'm just saying I been there, man. Sometimes you just gotta let some crazy sound play for ages and inspire you but not worry too much about how to perfect it because it is created by something so organic. It can become like an obsession and you get consumed by trying to recreate something - it can end up making you less productive.
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Anyway, no problemo.
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| here's what i would try: *record it on DAW. *try to filter out all the good stuff you can with eq just leaving mostly the ugly signal. *bounce and use the ugly signal as reference for a de-noise plugin: eg soundsoap. *apply the soundsoap patch to the original unaltertered recording
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| I use something similar sometimes and I always laugh at the translated output.
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