Sick of the computer screen !

[Don Solaris]

Originally Posted by peglegjoe857

Would you be able to use it's pads for MPC type playing?

Don't know MPC type playing but you can build a multisample, set it to 2 octave keyboard on RS-7000 and play it and record it that way (or with recording quantization if you prefer precision).

Originally Posted by peglegjoe857

And with the x0x programming in the machines. Can you edit the notes in real time, like on a 707?

That is the point of x0x editing. And not only you can edit, but you can move to the next "channel", the same way when you select a next drum sound on TR-808 (i.e move from kick to snare) and then just type the beat on buttons. Super fast workflow.

[Derp]

Thread TL;DR, so sorry if this has already been covered, but get an MPC1000 and drop JJOS on it. Without JJOS, I found the MPC1000 to be kinda weak when it came to sequencing. With JJOS? All of a sudden, step editing is a lot more logical, there's x0x style grid editing, and there's about a billion other improvements. The only sequencer that can hold a candle to JJOS imo would have to be the RM1X.

[Slik dA Relic]

out of the 3... QY100, RM1X, and the RS7000, the RS is the best choice... the QY and the RM does not sample, the QY is more of a portable sketch pad instrument, and the RM is not as extensive in its features as the RS... it IS the best choice out of the 3... check these vids i posted:

YouTube - RS7000 sawtooth wave tutorial

YouTube - RS7000 portamento

YouTube - Slik dA Relic 3 beats, 1sample

da relic

[Don Solaris]

Originally Posted by Slik dA Relic

YouTube - RS7000 sawtooth wave tutorial

Me like tha square toof. Actually a good video. Kudos. As well as the others. Very inspirational.
Just ome small thing regarding the LFO in RS-7000. There is no need to "set the right speed of the LFO to match your tempo" (i think i've heard that in video). This process is fully automatic on RS-7000. All you need to do is to enable SYNC. Then just select i.e. 16th, 8th/3, 8th, etc. - in the LFO section and it perfectly matches your tempo the way you could never hit it that precisely in "manual" way.

[vibralux]

MPC 2500 with JJ oS XL - all the way. A bit pricey but if YOu want the best and most intuitive hardware sequencer there You have it. I was in similar position to Yours. I finished my debut album – selfproduced ITB. After six months of producing I developed and LCD allergy. So I took a plunge on the 2500. Hooked it up to Voyager, Machinedrum and Virus TI. Within two months I learned this thing in and out and guess what? I have a skeleton for my second album –*mouse free. You just listen instead of watching*–*and trust me*–*this simple experience is worth the extra price. And no –*Korg Pad Kontrol hooked up to a PC wont be the same*– I tried that route

Good luck

Marty

[Popbott]

Originally Posted by hankdrummer

what's the best and cheapest keyboard sampling workstations ?

just need those three things : a keyboard + a built-in sampler + a built-in sequencer that's EASY to use. something like a MPC with keys instead of pads.

I swear I am so sick of everyone and their mother's dog suggesting an MPC with JJOS. I found the MPC series of sequencers a pain in the ass to work with and that tiny little screen, might as well use a freak'in mouse. Although I do trust GS member Derp's comments on the JJOS.

Cheapest workstations?

I have always sequenced outboard, starting with my Korg O1W-FD, I recorded four albums using that synth's sequencer. Recently, I have been sequencing on my Korg Triton and find it's sequencer/touch screen intuitive and a breeze to work on. A used Korg Triton 61 workstation/sampler can be found used today for under $400. I have a vintage synth expansion card in mine. Same sequencer that is found on the Korg Oasys, just a smaller screen. Currently, I have my Triton controlling over 15 synths in perfect sync and have never had a problem.

[wax808]

Originally Posted by Popbott

I swear I am so sick of everyone and their mother's dog suggesting an MPC with JJOS. I found the MPC series of sequencers a pain in the ass to work with and that tiny little screen, might as well use a freak'in mouse. Although I do trust GS member Derp's comments on the JJOS.

I could see how you would get sick of that, especially since you didn't find that the MPC fit your workflow.

IMHO an MPC-1000 with the JJos is the best sequencer/sampler for the money, hands down. My Mom's dog agrees.

It does have a smaller screen, but it contains all the info I need. to tell you the truth I barely even notice looking at the screen. Then again I have the newest JJos that can read my thoughts and act accordingly.

[peglegjoe857]

I use to use a Kawai Q-80 to sequence. Now THAT is a smaller screen.

Amazing little machine, though. I loved sequencing on it. Step was quick and intuitive. Very flexible. Cheap as shit, for 50 bucks you can't find a better hardware sequencer. 32 tracks with 8 buttons for turning them on and off based on which of 4 banks you are in. A lot of people rave about the MMT8 being great for this live if you do loop based stuff. **** that, try a Q-80... MUCH better. Plus it does floppy, and the MMT8 is one of those what's in it is what's in it... and it crashes, you are ****ed.

Yeah, ever since I switched to using my MPC-60 I have missed that little Q-80. But I will say this, when I used the Q-80 I did a LOT of step sequencing... and not I NEVER use the MPC-60 for step sequencing... so it's got me manually performing all of my tracks... and I like that.

[vibralux]

Popbott - whatever rocks Your boat - I searched a lot for hardware sequencer and checked many options. The newest JJ OS XL is sick. When I unpacked my MPC and touched those buttons I thought : WTF - do I really want to click this shit to death with all those buttons? But I learned my lesson with Elektron MOnomachine - for the first few months I wanted to throw it out of window. But after few really really hectic weekends with it, face to face with its blue screen I got the whole concept and now would never part with it. Same with MPC - when You master it (and its dead easy to master it) You wont have to look at the screen. I am not

Peace
M

[Popbott]

Originally Posted by hankdrummer

what's the best and cheapest keyboard sampling workstations ?

just need those three things : a keyboard + a built-in sampler + a built-in sequencer that's EASY to use. something like a MPC with keys instead of pads

Thread starter requested something like an MPC with keys that is cheap and easy to use. I find Korg sequencers among the easiest, intuitive to use, hands down, literally, IMO it's the best sequencer out there.

I suppose if I did use JJOS I would probably like it and yes, I am sick of hearing about it. Just because someone likes to jump off a bridge doesn't mean everyone has to do it. Just laying out that using an MPC to sequence outboard doesn't always have to be the norm, no worries.

[vibralux]

Now I have another idea - my first sequencer - Kurzweil K2000 VP - it has some simple sequencer - easy to use and really deep instrument. And its in Your price range.

Good luck
M

[Barfunkel]

Originally Posted by vibralux

Popbott - whatever rocks Your boat - I searched a lot for hardware sequencer and checked many options. The newest JJ OS XL is sick. When I unpacked my MPC and touched those buttons I thought : WTF - do I really want to click this shit to death with all those buttons? But I learned my lesson with Elektron MOnomachine - for the first few months I wanted to throw it out of window. But after few really really hectic weekends with it, face to face with its blue screen I got the whole concept and now would never part with it. Same with MPC - when You master it (and its dead easy to master it) You wont have to look at the screen. I am not

Peace
M

Just wondering, what was so hard with the Monomachine? I got one a month ago, it took me about 30 minutes to learn how to use the sequencer, pretty much the easiest piece of hardware I've ever seen. Everything's so fast and intuitive, sequencers like MPC or RM1x don't come anywhere near. There's basicly no learning curve, just turn it on and start sequencing, either grid mode or live, works either way.

I can understand that if you want to record jazzy piano sequences it probably is not the right platform for you, but for most EDM purposes it's perfect.

[vibralux]

Well I am not talking about the basic operation - grid sequencing and live recording - that' s true - a monkey can do it. and I could do that in seconds as I am a ninja of MAchinedrum

I am talking about all the separate triggering of filter and amp envelopes, different mode of multi and different approaches to achieve those complex layers. That took me so long. I hated the basic sounds of Mono - maybe that was the problem. I had to work my ass off to achieve the sounds I liked...

M

[Popbott]

Originally Posted by vibralux

Now I have another idea - my first sequencer - Kurzweil K2000 VP - it has some simple sequencer - easy to use and really deep instrument. And its in Your price range.

Good luck
M

That is a great suggestion, I have a K2000S that has the sampler upgrade, fan and multiple outputs. What is the VP version?

[vibralux]

I am not shure what's the VP version –*this was last version of the K2000 keyboard*–*mine had a blueberry color. I think it was basically the same as K2000 except some minor OS tweaks, but I am not shure.That was my first synth back in 1998 and i was really green back then. I really regret selling this beat*– it souded really good and hifi, although a lack of dedicated knobs for synth params threw me off this thing. But it still is such a deep synth – and it still holds its own value.

M

[Popbott]

Yes, you are correct. The VP even features more updated sound sets and the sampling feature built in. The K2000 is very deep although I haven't deviled in it too much lately. I should give the sequencer a quick run and check it out.

[kasprouch]

now this is sick... haha


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