NI Komplete 5

[shadowfac]

Seems like a pretty good deal at $399, but with all the stuff I have, I probably don't need it at all.

Do I?

[aaeronn]

Originally Posted by shadowfac

Seems like a pretty good deal at $399, but with all the stuff I have, I probably don't need it at all.

Do I?

I don't know what you already have, but my guess is nope - you don't need it - *unless* you have mastered what you already have and feel that it will fill a gap. More stuff beyond a certain point usually just leads to indecision on what to use and no real understanding of how to get the most out of it all. I've seen some pretty insane setups here and honestly, while it looks impressive, I'd not want to work in an environment with 15 keyboards, racks of outboard and a gazillion plugins. I know - not very slutty, but I can always tell when I have too much and need to thin the herd - usually when I can't reach it all from the drivers seat, however YMMV

[shadowfac]

I know I don't need it, and I'm probably not buying it.... but I had to let out some steam because it's a very attractive deal and I'm going to have to pass.

I just went through a downsizing stage, from 14 hardware synths to 8. The original plan was to keep only 5 or 6 synths, but there were a couple I couldn't get rid of. I also have a bunch of pretty good softsynths that I'm simply not using right now and, like you say, first I have to master what I have, which should take me a couple years before I even consider buying something else (unless my music goes in a total different direction).

[aaeronn]

I know what you're feelin' - I go through phases where I see a good deal on a piece and am tempted, but then I step back and look at my current setup and I see that I have exactly what I need. Other than updating computer hw and sw, I haven't purchased anything in the last 3 years and it's quite liberating. I'm still learning new things about the pieces I have - and some of them I've owned for quite a while. It all comes down to making good choices about the pieces you purchase and learning how to get the most out of them.

[Johnny Wrong]

Resist the urge to consume.

I hate discounts sometimes.

Like when I go to the store for a coke, but have to get 2 to get the best price cos the price for a single is a ripoff.
So then I get more addicted to coke and the cycle continues..................

Marketers are very skilled at separating people from their money regardless of whether they actually need the product or not.

"But its SUCH A GOOD DEAL!" (even though I don't need it)

Also if you buy this, you will most likely have to shell out for the upgrade when you want it to work on your new 64 bit system next year.

[Yoozer]

Originally Posted by shadowfac

Seems like a pretty good deal at $399, but with all the stuff I have, I probably don't need it at all.

Do I?

In your gearlist there's no overlap with Kontakt, Akoustik Piano, Elektrik Piano, Battery or FM8.

Why not? Chances are someone will miss out so you can transfer the license. Software doesn't count in the way of downsizing. You will run out of studio room, but not as easy out of harddisk space

Do you feel that you're missing something?

As for the argument above - still cheaper to upgrade than to spend the full sum.

[chrisso]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

Software doesn't count in the way of downsizing. You will run out of studio room, but not as easy out of harddisk space

I agree. Just because you own some software doesn't mean you have to use it all the time.

[shadowfac]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

In your gearlist there's no overlap with Kontakt, Akoustik Piano, Elektrik Piano, Battery or FM8.

The full story is: I was planning to buy the Korg Legacy Digital Edition to replace the Wavestation A/D I sold, but then I saw this offer and it looked a lot better.

Actually, it is Reaktor, Elektrik Piano, Battery, and FM8 which attract me.

Reaktor simply because I love modulars, and it can do lots of stuff my G2 and dotcom can't (e.g., sample-based and granular stuff).

Elektrik Piano because I love EP's, but had to sell my Rhodes for space reasons.

Battery because I don't have a good drum sampler with a huge library.

FM8 because I sold my FS1R and don't have a dedicated FM synth (although I can do plenty of FM with the Nord G2 and Lead 3).

I do own Dimension Pro, which more or less fills the role of bread & butter sample-based synth, although I think Kontakt's library, Akoustik Piano, and B4 may be better. I also have plenty of VA softsynths (all G-Force VA's, VAZ Plus 2, z3ta+, and Pentagon), so I'm not really interested in Massive or Pro-53. Absynth sounds a bit more interesting, but I don't think there's anything it can do that I can't do with the rest of my gear.

What I'm afraid of, mostly, is that if I buy this, I will barely have time to play with so many synths.

[pyvnd]

I dislike the sound of Akoustik Piano. If Kontakt 3 is similar I say avoid it. In general I don't like the NI too much although some Reaktor synths sound pretty good. But overall NI's got this full sound that sounds too compressed or something to me. Not a lot of room to breath. And FM8 and FS1R sound is night and day. I have Reaktor, AP, FM8, and Battery 3 and I hardly use any of them. To put it bluntly, my hardware sounds better. That said, if you think you'll use 3 or 4 of these NI things, then buying Komplete at this price makes sense. I hear the Guitar thing is pretty good. Too bad Spektral Delay or any other effects are not included. The effects are an area where my hardware can not kompete.

Some day (when I have a new PC), I'll buy a total NI package along with whatever iteration of Kore is happening but it won't be today. That's the other thing--you had better have a killer computer to run all of this. Just because it's cheap it doesn't mean you have to have it. Quite the opposite actually.

[w_stylz]

I think it was probably worth it at $1000. $399 is a great deal for it. You are not really going to find something with so many different sounds and different architectures at that price point. Of course -- I am sure they dropped the price because they are probably coming out with a Komplete 6 soon which will probably have a bunch of Add-on packs and such. They usually do this to get rid of extra stock. That all said - $400 is a ridiculousl good deal for what you get. I think Battery alone is great considering it is way more flexible than most hardware drum samplers.

[kasprouch]

paid $2'000 for K4 when it came out... its worth a helluva lot more than 399 - but if you're not gonna use it, thats 399 too much

[Yoozer]

Originally Posted by shadowfac

What I'm afraid of, mostly, is that if I buy this, I will barely have time to play with so many synths.

I have this in a way that because it's far easier to render and apply effects it's my hardware that gets underused . Most of the pieces I have are nostalgia.

Massive has an interesting and efficient workflow that I couldn't find anywhere else. I'm fairly sure it won't overlap much with the rest of your gearlist.

[deuc647]

Originally Posted by pyvnd

I dislike the sound of Akoustik Piano. If Kontakt 3 is similar I say avoid it. In general I don't like the NI too much although some Reaktor synths sound pretty good. But overall NI's got this full sound that sounds too compressed or something to me. Not a lot of room to breath. And FM8 and FS1R sound is night and day. I have Reaktor, AP, FM8, and Battery 3 and I hardly use any of them. To put it bluntly, my hardware sounds better. That said, if you think you'll use 3 or 4 of these NI things, then buying Komplete at this price makes sense. I hear the Guitar thing is pretty good. Too bad Spektral Delay or any other effects are not included. The effects are an area where my hardware can not kompete.

Some day (when I have a new PC), I'll buy a total NI package along with whatever iteration of Kore is happening but it won't be today. That's the other thing--you had better have a killer computer to run all of this. Just because it's cheap it doesn't mean you have to have it. Quite the opposite actually.

The piano is kontakt is money.

[crufty]

I just can't get into the sound, personally....anyone else feel this way too?

@ $400 it is a great deal.

[Zygadenus]

1. Massive
2. Reaktor
3. Absynth
4. Battery

Those alone are worth it in my book.




Also, I'm finally using my account. I hope to become active on this forum.
Hi all.

[kasprouch]

Originally Posted by Zygadenus

1. Massive
2. Reaktor
3. Absynth
4. Battery

Those alone are worth it in my book.




Also, I'm finally using my account. I hope to become active on this forum.
Hi all.

+1

Kontakt and Reaktor are worth it... but you have to like the slick rounded NI sound.


welcome to the forum Zygadenus

[ButchP]

This is a GREAT deal Kontakt and Battery are worth that alone!!

[CircusofMind]

I am a happy Komplete owner. In my opinion it's definitely worth it. I bought a similar cheap package with Komplete 4 right before they upgraded to 5. Once I realize that I loved Battery, Reaktor, and Absynth I upgraded to 5. Massive alone was worth that upgrade.

If you can afford it, Do it!

[iangomes]

the purchase of reaktor completely destroyed my lust for any other soft synths... going to pass on this one, though I used to want Komplete a lot!

[rogerbrain]

Originally Posted by ButchP

This is a GREAT deal Kontakt and Battery are worth that alone!!

I have been recording a long time but am pretty green in the area of sortware synths/ samplers/ sequencers

so I am in the newbie position, I do not have any software except what comes with Logic

does this package run well on a Mac pro with Logic 8?

seems like a good deal, but, is Kontakt better than the Logic sampler (which seems to change the sound of things)?

does this have a sequencer with it?

I have tried to get the answers from the NI site but am appearently not up to speed enough to pull the info I want

thanks

thanks

[hakim]

Originally Posted by Zygadenus

1. Massive
2. Reaktor
3. Absynth
4. Battery

Those alone are worth it in my book.




Also, I'm finally using my account. I hope to become active on this forum.
Hi all.

Don't forget FM8

[Brickman]

Originally Posted by crufty

I just can't get into the sound, personally....anyone else feel this way too?

@ $400 it is a great deal.

+1

Bought and sold Absynth / FM7 / Reaktor 5 / . NI's sound just does not float my boat . Shame , because they make good synths .

[Yoozer]

Originally Posted by rogerbrain

seems like a good deal, but, is Kontakt better than the Logic sampler (which seems to change the sound of things)?

I personally use Kontakt mostly because of its library (VSL Kontakt edition) and its convolution reverb. As for changing sounds, I recently did a test with that here: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/4262504-post86.html

does this have a sequencer with it?

Not a sequencer like Logic; but Reaktor has some ensembles (basically complete synthesizer + sequencer combinations, ready to play) that contain simple step sequencers or groovebox-like pattern sequencers.

[Johnny Wrong]

Digital Village have just put the price up from £329 to £399, and it seems that they have done this after Thomann, and maybe some other sellers ran out of stock so can get away with it.
Cheeky f*ckers.
Definitely not cool.

[misnomer]

Just bought Komplete 5 for 399 Eur, I already had Reaktor 5 and Battery 3 wich is my main Drumsampler. I already knew Massive, Absynth 3, FM 8, Pro 53.

I always wanted to buy Kontak, definately worth every cent, amazing Sampler! Really good workflow, good beatslicer, nice envelopes, usefull fx, good library (VSL).

Justed stepped through some Synth Presets of all Plugins and realized, that these plugs got no balls. There are some interesting Presets, especially in Absynth and Massive, but most of the sounds are a bit "lifeless and cold". Tweeking on my Juno 60 is much more fun and inspireing then stepping trough all these NI Presets. Maybe when it comes to the mix it's much easier two work with these NI Sounds, but everybody uses them, so why should we use them at all?

But I think it's still worth to buy it for this Price. The Sample Library is really good...

[danika]

I just bought Komplete 5 from Musicians Friend for $339, and it's in transit. I figured even though I already have Kontakt and Absynth, the addition VI's are worth it.

Question for people here who already have it: I understand with Komplete there is a common serial number for all the included products. Does that mean I should reinstall Kontakt and Absynth, or does it make any difference? Also what about upgrades? When Kontakt 4 and Absynth 4 (and whatever else) eventually come out as extra cost upgrades, is there any problem with purchasing the upgrades separately?

[kasprouch]

Originally Posted by danika

When Kontakt 4 and Absynth 4 (and whatever else) eventually come out as extra cost upgrades, is there any problem with purchasing the upgrades separately?

no problem at all - you've purchased a full licence for every product in Komplete. you can upgrade them all together with K6 or K7, or upgrade a product individually.

[tony smyth]

[QUOTE=danika;4355242]I just bought Komplete 5 from Musicians Friend for $339, and it's in transit. I figured even though I already have Kontakt and Absynth, the addition VI's are worth it.

Danika - how did you get it for that price? I belive your supposed to type in MINE in the promo code, but it doesnt work for me for some reason.

[danika]

Originally Posted by tony smyth

Danika - how did you get it for that price? I belive your supposed to type in MINE in the promo code, but it doesnt work for me for some reason.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-p...struments.html

[cltd]

Originally Posted by hakim

Don't forget FM8

+1. Underrated, but really powerful synth.