Richie Hawtin twitter app.

[phizix]

Has anyone seen this?

Richie Hawtin launches Twitter app for Traktor | Beatportal

Its got me really excited. If it works it could be a great for the future of club based music. Obviously it depends on Djs embracing the laptop based stuff but I see it more and more nowadays.

I did a slot on an internet radio station today and the guy who runs the show told me about it. He said the set lists on Twitter will be links to the actual tracks on Beatport so people can buy the tracks easily. I think this will help encourage people to actually buy them as they're easily accesible.

Obviously this is not the solution to piracy but I think its a great idea and step in the right direction.

What do you lot think?

[Entrainer]

I like that they're working on technology to monitor the tracks played at clubs and charge the clubs the correct $.

What's the past-tense of Twit...

Twa.. oh, never mind.

[alexp]

Richie is a good friend of mine, and hes always on the ball with things. This is another fantastic idea from him and its something that dj's, producers and music lovers can really get into!

Cheers Rich!!!!


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[galisteo]

i agree it's a good idea. what are his connections with beatport i mean there are rumours that it his brothers company or RH part owns it.

[jaykay]

I dunno about that......loses some of the mystery if everyone knows what you're spinning, good on all other accounts though.

With the technical revolution that has occurred to DJ's of late I would consider this dubious. Does everyone want/deserve/require your exact track listing for the set? Are you being robbed of your intellectual property as a programmer of the set?

What we have to remember though, is that back in the day anyone could get behind a pair of decks and learn to beat-mix, the real magic from a DJ came from track selection and pure skill. Nowadays anyone with NI Traktor, Serrato Final Scratch and the likes can beat-mix with their eyes closed and pull an insurmountable amount of tricks over the set without breaking a sweat, the magic is still in track selection though.

Will this create a bunch of Hawtin clones worldwide? Who knows, but I am a little sceptical, call me oldschool but I remember the days of spinning a whitelable with the satisfaction that I knew it kicked ass as well as that no one had it, on top of the fact that no-one knew what it was.

I guess gone are those days......

[Tommylicious]

Gotta agree with above post... and I am not so sure if all DJs are so eager to share their playlists on twitter. Only to promote their own tracks and from their labels / friends.

Like mentioned, part of DJing is to come up with original and surprising material.

Not so in to twitter btw...Love Traktor though. Richie is great too!

[phizix]

Yeah I know what you mean about not wanting people to know what your dubs are but there's no reason why you have to disclose that, just name them something else so people cant see.

Whats got me excited is that tunes which are out and readily available will get more of a chance of actually being bought.

Also I think it could do a lot to push new talent which can only be a good thing for any style of music. It won't take loads of different plays for people to know the name of your tune.
I make DnB and like most styles of dance music the labels want to see your tracks getting played before they will commit to putting them out I think its a good way to show labels that DJ XXXX has been playing your tune.

[Tommylicious]

True, artists get credit for their work this way, that's a plus. Maybe in the future they might even get a fee. (like you do now when you are played on the radio)

Another plus is that if you're the guy doing a set before or after Richie you now atleast know wich tracks NOT to include in your set.

[phizix]

Originally Posted by Tommylicious

True, artists get credit for their work this way, that's a plus. Maybe in the future they might even get a fee. (like you do now when you are played on the radio)

That would be great! Its hard to let PRS know when a track has been played, this could really help

Originally Posted by Tommylicious

Another plus is that if you're the guy doing a set before or after Richie you now atleast know wich tracks NOT to include in your set.

LOL yeah that would be cool. The only bad point would be if your the producer in the crowd, gone would be the days when you could hear 2 or 3 different DJS play your tune in a night.

[d1rtynyc]

Originally Posted by Entrainer

What's the past-tense of Twit...

Twa.. oh, never mind.

Very funny! You started my day off with a laugh. Thanks.

[phizix]

How Twitter tracklist app will change everything | Beatportal

Some good points here also.

I thought it would be cool to have a display in the club, but with more and more people having free internet on their mobiles, they could check for themselves. I still think the display could be useful though.

Also, having names spelled correctly. I have trouble with people being able to spell my name but I've probably gone too far too change it now.This could definitely help.

I think it would be good for producers to have a resource which collates all the plays of their music so they can see who has been playing it and what their playing, Then it would be easier to see which angle to come at with your music and also which DJs are playing you and therefore having a more effective mailing list.

There are also cons mentioned in the article. Firstly the effect on dubplate culture, but we've covered that here.
The writer also talks about instant promotion but I think that's a good thing. Albeit different to what were used to but the industry needs to progress and embrace digital technology and not be brought to its knees by it as a result of not wanting change.

He also says it would be too hard for PRS to gather the information but I'm sure it would be possible to set up something automatic using the meta data

[Hypagen]

Originally Posted by jaykay

Will this create a bunch of Hawtin clones worldwide? Who knows, but I am a little sceptical, call me oldschool but I remember the days of spinning a whitelable with the satisfaction that I knew it kicked ass as well as that no one had it, on top of the fact that no-one knew what it was.

I guess gone are those days......

There will still be people who aspire to be original.

[Strobian]

Well one of things that keep Richie moving forward is his ability to try new things. I like the secretive part of Djing. I can just see a bunch of people freaking out to the track and then turning to the screen to see who made it? Could have some pros and cons, but not all Dj's have to embrace it. Most of them publish playlists already, just maybe not live in a club, so this is different. It will be really good for the artists that get published on Twitter no doubt, so for exposure its a plus.

[Acid Hazard]

I'll stick with vinyl thanks.

[Johnny Wrong]

Originally Posted by jaykay

call me oldschool but I remember the days of spinning a whitelable with the satisfaction that I knew it kicked ass as well as that no one had it, on top of the fact that no-one knew what it was.

I guess gone are those days......

Yeah, I know what you mean.

That is part of the reason I got into production, I wanted to have my own secret tracks.

I remember hearing years ago that Lil Louis was playing French Kiss for 3 years before he released it!

I'm pretty sure that some of the tracks will be omitted or simply unavailable, a lot of DJs make up a portion of their set with unreleased stuff.

[phizix]

I think the fact that some DJs will withhold the names of some tunes isn't necessarily detrimental to the project. The vast majority of producers will still get the exposure they deserve and I think it has the potential to generate more money for the dance music industry as a whole.

Yes Vinyl sounds and feels better but its on it doesn't sell like it used to and there's a lack of money in the industry as a result.

[nonstatic]

this is a great idea IF your music is properly tagged (which in the case of hawtin, it isn't).

one of the drawbacks to digital dj'ing is keeping tabs on these sorts of things. i saw magda play a few years ago with a notepad file open with her own silly way of describing which track was which.

this would all be solved if people knew how to properly tag their audio files. i am speaking mainly about labels and artists who send promos to big time DJ's like hawtin, who are primarily playing promo/unreleased material. of course purchased music is properly tagged (at beatport, anyway).

unfortunately i don't see this situation changing anytime soon.

[phizix]

Yeah I see what you mean but at least it puts the responsibility in the hands of the artist to input their own meta-data correctly.

Better to have the option than not

[Brian!]

You could know all the tracks and still not be 5% of the DJ Richie is. Shit, mu****ah could hand you his entire setup and most people wouldn't be able to rock it as well as he does. I don't see the problem with this. If ANYTHING people should be happy about this because it allows people to sell tracks to non-DJs a lot easier which is pretty non-existent as it is.

[phizix]

Originally Posted by Brian!

You could know all the tracks and still not be 5% of the DJ Richie is. Shit, mu****ah could hand you his entire setup and most people wouldn't be able to rock it as well as he does. I don't see the problem with this. If ANYTHING people should be happy about this because it allows people to sell tracks to non-DJs a lot easier which is pretty non-existent as it is.

+1

[JoeyRec]

Originally Posted by jaykay

What we have to remember though, is that back in the day anyone could get behind a pair of decks and learn to beat-mix, the real magic from a DJ came from track selection and pure skill.

call me oldschool but I remember the days of spinning a whitelable with the satisfaction that I knew it kicked ass as well as that no one had it, on top of the fact that no-one knew what it was.

I guess gone are those days......

Yea I have no respect for DJ's now. Im sorry I just dont.. unless you are making your own stuff.. and unless you are really getting creative with your sets, it just doesnt impress me whatsoever.

I have always been a guitar player/ musician/ engineer/ composer /whatever though.
Been going to parties in NY for over 10 years and all, but never felt comfortable playing other people stuff. Even so, back in the day it was a SKILL to dj, and you had to put your work and money in to get records.. then learn how to spin them.

Beatport/tracktor/serato have ruined the DJ.. there needs to be more of an evolution of live electronic music IMO.