anyone using "rebeat" ?

[benhunk]

Hi everybody,

just checked the demo of "rebeat" --- it seems to be great !
Anyone using it ? How do you feel about it ?
Do your tracks appear in the shops like itunes ?

thanx in advance

kind regards

Ben

[TomH]

Hi,
Im just thinking about it and others possibilities like this. It looks good, they want 15% profit of sale .. But still I think its a lot nowadays. CDBabby or Reverbanition offer similar service like Rebeat and their profit is 0-7%. But over the way Rebeat has anoter possibilities.

Any actual experiences?

[Robster]

Hey there

Rob here from REBEAT Digital - let me know if there's any question you might want to ask or any info I can provide you with.

Best, Rob

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by Robster

Hey there

Rob here from REBEAT Digital - let me know if there's any question you might want to ask or any info I can provide you with.

Best, Rob

yes:
1)who owns the rights to the music once uploaded to you?
2)your demo video shows the CD cover image as jpg image format. but it doesn't show the color format. i guess that would be ADOBE RGB 1998?

[Oop]

Found this on their site,

You just have to subrogate the digital distribution rights and the origins complience, that is essential for distribution.
As mentioned before – we are no Record Company, but only a Distributor.
Therefore: All other rights (copyrights, master rights) will remain the musicians/producers property.



Anyone here using any digital distribution service?
Interested to know, how well it works

[Robster]

Originally Posted by golden beers

yes:
1)who owns the rights to the music once uploaded to you?
2)your demo video shows the CD cover image as jpg image format. but it doesn't show the color format. i guess that would be ADOBE RGB 1998?

Hey Golden Beers

Sorry for the late reply on your questions!

@1) The Copyright of the music uploaded via REBEAT remains with the owner. For distributing your music to the various download shops, we need the right to make digital copies of you music and metadata (to store them on our servers and on the servers of the shops they will be sold on) and to digitally distribute your music. Please note: we work with track exclusivity, but NOT with artist exclusivity.

Track exclusivity means that once you've uploaded a track to REBEAT, you cannot distribute the same track via another digital distribution company. Imagine iTunes being delivered with the very same song from two different companies - that would lead to problems in accounting.

Non-artist exclusivity means that you can use REBEAT and still use any other distribution company for all the songs you haven't uploaded via REBEAT.

For more info, please find our Terms and conditions at Rebeat Digital GmbH - General Terms and Conditions

@2) Yep, standard color format jpg with 1400x1400 at 300dpi works well.

Hope I could answer your questions, don't hesitate to come back for more info. (Next time it won't take that long!)

Best, Rob

[cormacokane]

Hi Bob
Is it true that you cost a lot more than cd baby, or other digital distributers?
Regards
Cormac

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by Robster

Hey Golden Beers


@2) Yep, standard color format jpg with 1400x1400 at 300dpi works well.

Hope I could answer your questions, don't hesitate to come back for more info. (Next time it won't take that long!)

Best, Rob

thanks for the answers.
but this doesn't answer my 2nd question.

i'll ask it a little differently

which of the following standard jpeg color formats will give the most accurate color reproduction for your CD cover printing?:

a) sRGB IEC61966-2.1
b) Adobe RGB (1998)
c) Apple RGB
d) ColorMatch RGB
e) ProPhoto RGB

[Robster]

Originally Posted by golden beers

thanks for the answers.
but this doesn't answer my 2nd question.

i'll ask it a little differently

which of the following standard jpeg color formats will give the most accurate color reproduction for your CD cover printing?:

a) sRGB IEC61966-2.1
b) Adobe RGB (1998)
c) Apple RGB
d) ColorMatch RGB
e) ProPhoto RGB

Hey Golden Beers

Please note that we do not physically "print" your CD cover: we upload and distribute it along with your music and metadata to various webshops, but we are not a manufacturer of CDs.

I'm not a graphic geek, but in the online world, the color format of your artwork is absolutely irrelevant for the presentation of your artwork on iTunes &co. Our software for digital music distribution supports jpeg in all of these color formats, and so do the webshops we distribute your music to.

For physical prints, the quality depends more on the quality of the print shop's/manufacturer's equipment and settings. To be absolutely sure which color format will give the most accurate color reproduction for a physical print of your artwork please contact your trusty graphic designer or print shop or search the web, e.g. here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/foxfires/journal/2671595-question-about-color-profiles-and-printing-help

Best, Rob

[Robster]

Originally Posted by golden beers

thanks for the answers.
but this doesn't answer my 2nd question.

i'll ask it a little differently

which of the following standard jpeg color formats will give the most accurate color reproduction for your CD cover printing?:

a) sRGB IEC61966-2.1
b) Adobe RGB (1998)
c) Apple RGB
d) ColorMatch RGB
e) ProPhoto RGB

Hey Golden Beers

Please note that we do not physically "print" your CD cover: we upload and distribute it along with your music and metadata to various webshops, but we are not a manufacturer of CDs.

I'm not a graphic geek, but in the online world, the color format of your artwork is absolutely irrelevant for the presentation of your artwork on iTunes &co. Our software for digital music distribution supports jpeg in all of these color formats, and so do the webshops we distribute your music to.

For physical prints, the quality depends more on the quality of the print shop's/manufacturer's equipment and settings. To be absolutely sure which color format will give the most accurate color reproduction for a physical print of your artwork please contact your trusty graphic designer or print shop or search the web, e.g. here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/foxfires/journal/2671595-question-about-color-profiles-and-printing-help


Best, Rob

[Robster]

Originally Posted by cormacokane

Hi Bob
Is it true that you cost a lot more than cd baby, or other digital distributers?
Regards
Cormac

Hey Cormac

Please decide for yourself.

• EUR 1,- per track upload, EUR 1,- per ISRC code, EUR 5,- per EAN code. For an album with ten tracks, that’s worldwide digital
  distribution for EUR 25,-
• Metadata change for EUR 5,- per entire product (e.g. full album).
• Takedown for EUR 10.- per entire product (e.g. full album).
• Free export of EAN codes to use on physical releases.
• No monthly/quarterly/yearly fees. No membership fees. No hidden costs.
• Full tech support. Instantly. For free.
• 85% of net sales revenue to you, 15% to REBEAT. Yes there are companies offering 100%. But 100% of what? Compare.

Best, Rob

[Robster]

Originally Posted by golden beers

thanks for the answers.
but this doesn't answer my 2nd question.

i'll ask it a little differently

which of the following standard jpeg color formats will give the most accurate color reproduction for your CD cover printing?:

a) sRGB IEC61966-2.1
b) Adobe RGB (1998)
c) Apple RGB
d) ColorMatch RGB
e) ProPhoto RGB

Hey Golden Beers

Please note that we do not physically "print" your CD cover: we upload and distribute it along with your music and metadata to various webshops, but we are not a manufacturer of CDs.

I'm not a graphic geek, but in the online world, the color format of your artwork is absolutely irrelevant for the presentation of your artwork on iTunes &co. Our software for digital music distribution supports jpeg in all of these color formats, and so do the webshops we distribute your music to.

For physical prints, the quality depends more on the quality of the print shop's/manufacturer's equipment and settings. To be absolutely sure which color format will give the most accurate color reproduction for a physical print of your artwork please contact your trusty graphic designer or print shop or search the web, e.g. here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/foxfires/journal/2671595-question-about-color-profiles-and-printing-help

Best, Rob

[Robster]

Hey Golden Beers

Please note that we do not physically "print" your CD cover: we upload and distribute it along with your music and metadata to various webshops, but we are not a manufacturer of CDs.

I'm not a graphic geek, but in the online world, the color format of your artwork is absolutely irrelevant for the presentation of your artwork on iTunes &co. Our software for digital music distribution supports jpeg in all of these color formats, and so do the webshops we distribute your music to.

For physical prints, the quality depends more on the quality of the print shop's/manufacturer's equipment and settings. To be absolutely sure which color format will give the most accurate color reproduction for a physical print of your artwork please contact your trusty graphic designer or print shop or search the web, e.g. here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/foxfires/journal/2671595-question-about-color-profiles-and-printing-help

Best, Rob

[cormacokane]

Hi Rob
Your service looks very professional. I'm trying to weigh up the pros and cons of this service versus others.
You say there are no hidden costs but do you have to buy the software?100 euro.Have I got this wrong?
Thanks
Cormac

[Robster]

Hey Cormac

Yes, the full version of the software is a one-time €99.-, but that's not a hidden cost after all as it is clearly stated everywhere on our homepage and you simply can't register or log in without being informed about that.

However, these one-time €99.- for the full version enable you to upload an unlimited number of songs and albums, e.g. we have record labels that upload their entire back catalogue of several thousand tracks with one €99.- account. Again, for more information please take a look at our terms and conditions via the link provided in one of my previous postings above.

Hope that answers your question! Best, Rob

[Robster]

Originally Posted by golden beers

which of the following standard jpeg color formats will give the most accurate color reproduction for your CD cover printing?:

a) sRGB IEC61966-2.1
b) Adobe RGB (1998)
c) Apple RGB
d) ColorMatch RGB
e) ProPhoto RGB

Hey Golden Beers

Please note that we do not physically "print" your CD cover: we upload and distribute it along with your music and metadata to various webshops, but we are not a manufacturer of CDs.

I'm not a graphic geek, but in the online world the color format of your artwork is absolutely irrelevant for the presentation of your artwork on iTunes &co. Our software for digital music distribution supports jpeg in all of these color formats, and so do the webshops we distribute your music to.

For physical prints, the quality depends more on the quality of the print shop's/manufacturer's equipment and settings. To be absolutely sure which color format will give the most accurate color reproduction for a physical print of your artwork please contact your trusty graphic designer or print shop or search the web, e.g. here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/foxfires/journal/2671595-question-about-color-profiles-and-printing-help

Best, Rob

[golden beers]

hey rob, if you don't know the answer to my question; it would be better to say so rather than not answer at all.

[flamenco1]

Non of the above it would have to be CMYK to give an accurate representation of print color.

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by flamenco1

Non of the above it would have to be CMYK to give an accurate representation of print color.

that's not how my local print shop like their jpegs! their machine will only take adobe 1998 RGB.

plus CMYK isn't always the best choice online.

[Robster]

Originally Posted by golden beers

hey rob, if you don't know the answer to my question; it would be better to say so rather than not answer at all.

I've posted my answer to your question several times, but everytime I got the message that the webmaster has to check it before it will be posted. Any idea why this happens? Here's what I wrote:

Hey Golden Beers

Please note that we do not physically "print" your CD cover: we upload and distribute it along with your music and metadata to various webshops, but we are not a manufacturer of CDs.

I'm not a graphic geek, but in the online world, the color format of your artwork is absolutely irrelevant for the presentation of your artwork on iTunes &co. Our software for digital music distribution supports jpeg in all of these color formats, and so do the webshops we distribute your music to.

For physical prints, the quality depends more on the quality of the print shop's/manufacturer's equipment and settings. To be absolutely sure which color format will give the most accurate color reproduction for a physical print of your artwork please contact your trusty graphic designer or print shop or search the web, e.g. here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/foxfires/journal/2671595-question-about-color-profiles-and-printing-help

Best, Rob

[Robster]

Hey Golden Beers

I tried to answer you several times but everytime I got the message that the moderator has to check my reply before it will be visible. Any idea why that is? Anyway, here's what I wrote:

Hey Golden Beers

Please note that we do not physically "print" your CD cover: we upload and distribute it along with your music and metadata to various webshops, but we are not a manufacturer of CDs.

I'm not a graphic geek, but in the online world, the color format of your artwork is absolutely irrelevant for the presentation of your artwork on iTunes &co. Our software for digital music distribution supports jpeg in all of these color formats, and so do the webshops we distribute your music to.

For physical prints, the quality depends more on the quality of the print shop's/manufacturer's equipment and settings. To be absolutely sure which color format will give the most accurate color reproduction for a physical print of your artwork please contact your trusty graphic designer or print shop or search the web, e.g. here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/foxfires/journal/2671595-question-about-color-profiles-and-printing-help

Best, Rob

[Jules]

A forum bug prevented Robster posting.. He tried several times..

[golden beers]

oh i see, bug, sorry rob.
i had assumed that you do produce actual CDs/ DVDs because, in the demo, uploading CD artwork is mentioned and your site says it distributes CDs and DVDs:

Beside digital distribution, our company offers the distribution of CDs and DVDs

so your saying you can distribute for me but i have to physically produce the CDs myself?

[Robster]

Hello Golden Beers

The uploading of your CD artwork is necessary for digitally presenting your album on the various download stores. However, this is still about digital music distribution where no actual physical print is manufactured.

YES, we are also a physical distribution company, but this service is completely independent from digital music distribution. For physical distribution you deliver your already manufactured physical product (e.g. CD/DVD box) to us and we distribute to the various retailers. Note: you can use EAN/ISRC codes bought for digital distribution on physical products too.

Best, Rob

[msl]

Golden Beers thats a lot of confusion on this tread man.

I'm a designer with 20 years in the business. If you want to make an album cover it should be in hi-res (300dpi) cmyk for the printer to use, and low-res (72dpi) rgb for electronic use, web, email etc. It really doesn't matter what rgb profile you use, as it will be viewed on many varied monitors and screens anyway. Just like in music with people self mastering and crap, you should get a professional to do it for best results.


so back on topic, is anybody on here using this service?


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[Captain Proton]

Looks good, I'm fed up of getting ripped off by big distribution/record companies and also being tied to a 3 year contract. Had to physically (ahem...no actual damage done) get myself removed from a record contract in the early days after a falling out with the label boss who then refused to release any of my music for the next 3 years.... of course I was signed to an exclusive deal with them r.

Will be looking into rebeat for sure.

[sleepingbag]

so... is anyone actually using this?

(follow up question: in the US?)

[kundevelop]

anyone using rebeat?

[vipunen]

Anyone?

I find it a bit strange that I can't find any info of different digital music distribution platforms... Internet should be full of info from users!

[kundevelop]

rebeat seems not good when releasing music on beatport because all releases are marked as "rebeat" in the label field and so many different release are found on rebeat label. also you can't decide which online store will sell your music: you can't exclude one shop from rebeat shops list.

regards

dr kunkun