Originally Posted by spaceacademy
My only gripe with my mastering engineer is its not loud enough. An RMS of between 11-13 just wont cut it these days. I notice it instantly next to louder tracks. This has unfortunately forced me to reconsider who to get to master my stuff because he refuses to go louder.
That's contentious. Taking a loud section of a tune, if it averages above about -8, it's practically impossible through any
chain to maintain all the fidelity - no distortion, no lack of punch, etc, etc. Many guys around here who push their tracks harder than that (esp throughout the loud sections) might find me saying that annoying, but listening to any number of extremely loud electronic tracks on soundcloud will reveal this: Just about all of it could probably sound better
, with a little less hard limiting/compression - bass is lacking, kick drums are tinny and small, etc, etc.
Sure, the pros and experienced mixers know how to optimise the situation (eg mixing into a limiter, etc) to get an acceptable result inspite of a vanishingly small dynamic range in the loud bits, but the fact remains that however good they can get it, it would be better again if they didn't have to squish it so much.
Now, take that in consideration with this: An extra decibel or so is not
going to make you more successful. I can think of a bunch of electronic artists who are doing quite well and whose tracks average less than most electronic producers who put their tunes online. Clearly, they focus on getting it sounding good.