You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?

[vyedmic]

Topic says it but don't tell me it depends on the purity of Saw waveform of said oscillator.

As I said a crank up the resonance than Release to halfway and Attack on max then I adjust the Decay....or was that before the Attack came down?

Give us some tips lads. What works for you?

[chrisso]

The question is too confusing to answer.
Try a simpler question. What are you trying to achieve?

[Don Solaris]

Originally Posted by vyedmic

You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?

...then you take some meth/acid/whatever-works, record a few tracks, go out with buddies, find some chicks and go drive the pink love bus into tuna town. You come home and see your eyes in the mirror realizing you're still "on", you go back to synths, record a few more tracks, go to shower, take a big shot of whiskey and lay in bed. The rest of the week is pretty the same. You go to work speeding by with your Labbatts Ice cooler in the passenger seat and a few empties under the brake pedal, blasting Decapitated and spanking teh monkey, occasionally firing your sawed-off out the passenger window because there are aliens after you, and they're invisible but you can see them in moments of clarity, which occur during track changes.

[vyedmic]

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

because there are aliens after you, and they're invisible but you can see them in moments of clarity, which occur during track changes.

Did you see them? They give me creeps.

Okay simpler question how do you go about starting a sound from scratch? I found that the most important thing is the relationship of Oscillators but didn't find a mention about this in any book or guide...

What do you think?

[Don Solaris]

Originally Posted by vyedmic

Okay simpler question how do you go about starting a sound from scratch?

VCO1: ON
VCO2: OFF
VCF Cutoff: Max
VCF Reso: 0
VCF Env depth: 0
VCF Keytrack: 0
VCF Envelope: 0,0,MAX,0 (adsr)
VCA Envelope: 0,0,MAX,0 (adsr)

[DntBelievtheHype]

Originally Posted by vyedmic

Okay simpler question how do you go about starting a sound from a scratch?

Start with a scab and really dig in.

[mattyc]

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

...then you take some meth/acid/whatever-works, record a few tracks, go out with buddies, find some chicks and go drive the pink love bus into tuna town. You come home and see your eyes in the mirror realizing you're still "on", you go back to synths, record a few more tracks, go to shower, take a big shot of whiskey and lay in bed. The rest of the week is pretty the same. You go to work speeing by with your Labbatts Ice cooler in the passenger seat and a few empties under the brake pedal, blasting Decapitated and spanking teh monkey, occasionally firing your sawed-off out the passenger window because there are aliens after you, and they're invisible but you can see them in moments of clarity, which occur during track changes.

[PeteJames]

Shoot yourself and you shall be forever worshiped as the artiste that you are. You have arrived!

[Batchainpuller78]

Originally Posted by vyedmic

Topic says it but don't tell me it depends on the purity of Saw waveform of said oscillator.

As I said a crank up the resonance than Release to halfway and Attack on max then I adjust the Decay....or was that before the Attack came down?

Give us some tips lads. What works for you?

Okay simpler question how do you go about starting a sound from scratch? I found that the most important thing is the relationship of Oscillators but didn't find a mention about this in any book or guide...

What do you think?
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what??? what do we think about what??? what is being said here? what is being asked?
use more words please!
relationships of oscillators? to what? well yes you need oscillators to generate a sound from scratch so indeed they are the most important. you could use a self-oscillating filter but again keyword here is oscillating, get those airwaves moving at certain frequencies, if you'd like to use sine, saw or squarewave is entirely up to your taste in sound or if you are trying to synthesize an existing sound, first analyze what is in that.
the more oscillators the more complex and richer the sound gets.
but after the oscillators it's all up to filtering or frequency modulation to further shape the sound.

I mean I really don't get the thread if you know about oscillators and filters and adsr where is the problem of getting a sound from scratch?
just tweak it until you like it. I think that's what we all do.

[kasprouch]

You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?

eat an ice cream?


Thats what I always do...

[Beermaster]

Sod two detuned Sawtooth waves !

Just give me one juicy VCO with a an evil PWM .... Mmmmm |Full of Meaty Goodness.

[zmoorhs]

Someone must have spiked my drink again. Hello, hello... who's that?

[J.S.Vega III]

Can I just say, this is the best thread I've read on gearslutz for about the last three weeks...

Carry on!!

[SurveillanceP]

How does one start a sound from scratch?

WHAT SOUND ARE YOU WANTING TO START FROM SCRATCH?

no but seriously both my parents are dead. My 2nd LIFE PARENTS THAT IS OH MAN SRSLY BE HERE ALL WEEK TRY THE VEAL IT WON'T GIVE YOU A SAW TOOTH.

[zmoorhs]

Originally Posted by J.S.Vega III

Can I just say, this is the best thread I've read on gearslutz for about the last three weeks...

Carry on!!

It's one of the funniest I've ever read. The original post cracked me up when I first read it.

Still not sure if it's a joke or what.

[dan p]

Start with osc1 frying waveform,add osc2 and wisk for some beating,add envelope generator[s"] and serve sizzling hot.




Dan P

[Introspective]

This entire thread is

It's a joke, right?

[spunkadellic]

i dont see how anyone could ever make a synth sound without a graphing calculator!!!

[PeteJames]

Poor guy. he's been sitting there for days now with his two detuned waves on loop

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

...then you take some meth/acid/whatever-works, record a few tracks, go out with buddies, find some chicks and go drive the pink love bus into tuna town. You come home and see your eyes in the mirror realizing you're still "on", you go back to synths, record a few more tracks, go to shower, take a big shot of whiskey and lay in bed. The rest of the week is pretty the same. You go to work speeing by with your Labbatts Ice cooler in the passenger seat and a few empties under the brake pedal, blasting Decapitated and spanking teh monkey, occasionally firing your sawed-off out the passenger window because there are aliens after you, and they're invisible but you can see them in moments of clarity, which occur during track changes.

can I make this a quote?

[Batchainpuller78]

No point asking after doing it :D

[Reptil]

dOH!

[pr0gr4m]

Then your hand moves ever so purposefully towards the Pulse Width...pulse width... now where is th... WHAT! No PWM on this thing!?!?

[Mr. Varaldo]

Add 909 - make Trance.

Add 808 - make Hip-Hop.

Add electric piano, slowed-down loop and plenty of delay fx: make Trip-Hop.

Add wah-wah and 909: Make French House

Add electric piano, shakuhachi and seagulls - make New Age.

Add tuba - make Mariachi.

[chrisso]

Just to be perverse I suggest you try tuning the two oscillators perfectly together.

[Acid Hazard]

Then what? You trance in your pants.

[greggybud]

Originally Posted by vyedmic

Topic says it but don't tell me it depends on the purity of Saw waveform of said oscillator.

As I said a crank up the resonance than Release to halfway and Attack on max then I adjust the Decay....or was that before the Attack came down?

Give us some tips lads. What works for you?

Please be honest: Have you made previous posts in numerous audio/music forums under the name of "Walters?"

[Alien Tech]

The first thing that you must do if you want to make a sound from scratch is find a 1 year old unblemished goat. After sacrificing the goat to Satan, boot up any synths you may want to use. Draw a pentagram on your synths, or on the computer chassis in the case of softsynths. Acquire an 8 sided die, and assign one number for each direction on a compass (N, NW, W, SW, etc...). Roll the die once for every knob on the synth, and turn said knobs in the indicated direction. This may take a while, depending on the synth. After a quick prayer to Satan, play a few notes on th synth/midi controller.

If you found favor with the dark lord, than the sound you made will be pleasing. If not...your ears may start bleeding.

This usually works for me.

In all seriousness, there is no hard and fast rule for sound design. Usually I'll have a general idea of what sound I want to go for, so I don't get distracted or lost in the world of tweaking stuff. I never save sounds I make, even if I make them in software. This makes me think about what I'm doing each time I go to start a new song. Obviously, if I'm gigging, I will save the stuff I need, but I try to avoid doin that during the creative process.

[cliffemu]

Originally Posted by PeteJames

Poor guy. he's been sitting there for days now with his two detuned waves on loop

nice. I gotta get me some of those synths that he's got

[shadowfac]

Originally Posted by vyedmic

I found that the most important thing is the relationship of Oscillators...

No, it isn't. The most important thing in sound synthesis is modulation. That's how you go from a static sound (e.g. constant spectrum over time) to a dynamic one.

There's a thread about synthesis books for beginners. I recommend you read it.