You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?
Old 31st March 2009
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Great thread, by the way. Made my day
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Old 1st April 2009
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Please be honest: Have you made previous posts in numerous audio/music forums under the name of "Walters?"
I hope it's not that "Walters" guy from Harmony Central. If it is, i suggest everyone to update their ignore lists.


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can I make this a quote?
It's way too big. But, do whatever you want....
Old 1st April 2009
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You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?

1. you don't have a headache any more

or

2. tune them right back
Old 1st April 2009
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You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?


The detuning creates a new balance between the 2 osc and what comes out is a recieved new tone with made with the principes of duality. Then listen and sit back and think about the universe and the creation of all things. The universe is made by the concept of duality. Every part of energie needs its counter energie the result is called balance. Balance is when the negative and the positive energy has the same amount of value. If they are not balanced, then things are moving and re-balancing until they found balance, this movement is called time.
So the dual concept and the re-balancing (time) is creating everything you see, atoms, planets, genders, night/day, love/hate and even sound (think about sine-waves. Everything is collected in circles, circles are nothing but just a vibration between the 2 duality poles, remember the rebalancing.

So what do we do here then?
We are here to have experiences in a world of duality, its like holiday you can feel really great if you know what bad is (duality). if everything would be great, then we wont realise it because you have no relative point as a reference. This is what 2 detuned saws are saying to you.

cool huh?
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Old 1st April 2009
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You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?


The detuning creates a new balance between the 2 osc and what comes out is a recieved new tone with made with the principes of duality. Then listen and sit back and think about the universe and the creation of all things. The universe is made by the concept of duality. Every part of energie needs its counter energie the result is called balance. Balance is when the negative and the positive energy has the same amount of value. If they are not balanced, then things are moving and re-balancing until they found balance, this movement is called time.
So the dual concept and the re-balancing (time) is creating everything you see, atoms, planets, genders, night/day, love/hate and even sound (think about sine-waves. Everything is collected in circles, circles are nothing but just a vibration between the 2 duality poles, remember the rebalancing.

So what do we do here then?
We are here to have experiences in a world of duality, its like holiday you can feel really great if you know what bad is (duality). if everything would be great, then we wont realise it because you have no relative point as a reference. This is what 2 detuned saws are saying to you.

cool huh?


what about duality vs. non-duality? is that a trilogy?

With regard to the original post, it really depends on what you're trying to achieve. I'm still assuming you are actually joking, but - just in case you're not - I suggest that you don't detune them too much in relation to each other. I only say that because I've heard two saw waves over-obviously detuned (with a high cutoff value) in this manner in a number of musical styles (dnb, techno, house) and I hate it. I should say however, that if you were to use two SINE waves and set the cutoff on low, detune them about a semitone apart from each other, set a pitch modulation on slow (to get the drop bass sound) and play in the low octave range, you got yourself a crazy-nice sound. Works wonders in Photek/Johnny L style minimal dnb.

But I still reckon you were jokin'

Old 1st April 2009
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The universe is made by the concept of duality. Every part of energie needs its counter energie the result is called balance. Balance is when the negative and the positive energy has the same amount of value.
Oh Hai!

Where's the center of the universe?

Thanks!
Old 1st April 2009
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You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?


The detuning creates a new balance between the 2 osc and what comes out is a recieved new tone with made with the principes of duality. Then listen and sit back and think about the universe and the creation of all things. The universe is made by the concept of duality. Every part of energie needs its counter energie the result is called balance. Balance is when the negative and the positive energy has the same amount of value. If they are not balanced, then things are moving and re-balancing until they found balance, this movement is called time.
So the dual concept and the re-balancing (time) is creating everything you see, atoms, planets, genders, night/day, love/hate and even sound (think about sine-waves. Everything is collected in circles, circles are nothing but just a vibration between the 2 duality poles, remember the rebalancing.

So what do we do here then?
We are here to have experiences in a world of duality, its like holiday you can feel really great if you know what bad is (duality). if everything would be great, then we wont realise it because you have no relative point as a reference. This is what 2 detuned saws are saying to you.

cool huh?
So i'm total unbalanced until I experience death...
seems about right enough
Old 1st April 2009
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Oh Hai!

Where's the center of the universe?

Thanks!
The center of the universe is everywhere, omnicentric.
Old 2nd April 2009
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I hope it's not that "Walters" guy from Harmony Central. If it is, i suggest everyone to update their ignore lists.
no man, Walters IS god!



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It's way too big. But, do whatever you want....
probably is, but it sums it up nicely
the moment of clarity at track changes killed me
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Old 2nd April 2009
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In lulz we trust

1. you get first OSC
2. you get second OSC
3. you detune them
4. ????
5. PROFIT!!
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Old 2nd April 2009
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The center of the universe is everywhere, omnicentric.
was...



...and then Chuck Norris was born.
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Old 2nd April 2009
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You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?
Then you get an uneven beating sound due to phase cancellation. That's why you need 3 detuned oscs.
Old 2nd April 2009
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You have 2 Osc and you detune them..than what?
Last night I tried holding down a key on this weird ass thing my friends call a piano.. scared the shit out of me. So I went to bed... Feeling better today, but decided to leave the piano thingy till at least two people have called me a PRO!

Then I'll go and rebuy everything I own to make sure that its got PRO or PROFESSIONAL written on them, BECAUSE I'LL BE A PRO AND IT HAS TO BE WRITTEN EVERYWHERE!




I need another ice cream...




Thanks for listening!
Old 8th April 2009
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Topic says it but don't tell me it depends on the purity of Saw waveform of said oscillator.

As I said a crank up the resonance than Release to halfway and Attack on max then I adjust the Decay....or was that before the Attack came down?

Give us some tips lads. What works for you?
It is no wonder why some many slutz cannot comprehence the question.
For the question itself can only be perceived by a level 42 intellectualigence.
I shall decompress.

The issue at hand is that of 'purity'
"You have 2 Osc and you detune them...than what?"
Form follows function, a truth that we's distracted by the 'if-than' logic.
The more that one adds to the form (in this case the 'crank'ing of resonance, 'than release', and halfway attack) the further you deviate from original purity of form.

The eternal conflict between the 'Saw' Waveform versus the 'Said' Oscillator is symbolic of the pure joy of transcendent minimalism and the SA(i)D chaotic oscillations of our broken self destructive natures, always looking to adjust our decay before the attack comes down... down... down...
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Old 8th April 2009
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I was going to do a haiku, but then I figured, screw it.
Old 8th April 2009
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my almost haiku:

oscillators one and two,
detuned, self-oscillating,
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee............
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Old 8th April 2009
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okay, my confidence is back up.
here we go...

Give us some tips lads.
Topic says it but don't tell.
...and you detune them.
Old 9th April 2009
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I Pressed "Record Deal",
The one above "Oscillate"
But Nothing Happenned???
Old 9th April 2009
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Seriously, have an ice-cream. having one now, its awesome...
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Has anyone mentioned pwm yet?
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Has anyone mentioned pwm yet?
PWM? Yes.
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If you're using a soft synth and it has one, I'd recommend you hit the "random" button next.
Old 11th April 2009
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You have 2 Osc and you detune them... than what ?

Then u have a smoke and a pancake and call it a day
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Old 11th April 2009
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I accidentally the entire oscillator.
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Old 11th April 2009
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Hmm, I'm not quite following the thread...

Two counter forces of the universe in constant struggle, multiverse, Chuck Norris was born to restore the balance... Is this a new Moorcock book?
Old 11th April 2009
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OSC 2
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Old 11th April 2009
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Hmm, I'm not quite following the thread...
Quick recap:- Someone apparently on strong acid & struggling with the concept of synthesis asks about synthesis. What follows represents some deliberately & equally bizarre responses to a little insanity.
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