What do you think about this funky electro house track?

[rasmus]

a friend of mine just called me in exitement and asked if this was my track... and indeed it is
i wrote it about 1 1/2 years ago, then i backed up my harddisk and did a reinstall, some how i did not remember this one at all. it sounds bad, pumps alot, guess i was a little bit overwhelmed by cubase 4s new sidechain-routing
and the leadsynths gating fx is not in sync... was just a quick bounce to show it to some friends.
anyhow think it´s a really cool track, what do you think?
is it worth to start working on it again?

BE CAREFULL THERE IS A CLICK AT THE START OF THE TRACK!!!

greetings from hamburg

rasmus

btw: i found some more cool tracks on my backupdisk... so check your backups from time to time

[timbreman]

Sounds nothing like electro house to me.
Think it sounds a bit generic and unimaginative.
I also think the post might get moved by mods as it's supposed to be in another section.
Sorry for being so blunt.

[grantlandau]

i decided not to listen because it was self-labeled funky. then again, im a pretentious dick.

[rasmus]

so timbreman what genre is it if it ain´t electro house?
it´s sure got some electro and house influences... so what would that sum up to? huh

grantlandau: i got to agree with you, you are a pretentious dick
"i decided not to listen because it was self-labeled funky" so you actually never listen to funk? in that case i don´t need you comments anyway fuuck
i labled it funky because it´s not what many people call electro house...

my point of view is:
bassline: could be electro house
pad and lead: 80ies electro influenced
beat: 8th triplets... always sound kinda funky to me, dunno why

[Spectral Climax]

Well, its not bad...it has some nice sounds in it. It could definitely be better if you put more parts and not just a loop..especially if you "forget" for a while the words "funky electro house" or "dance"..."Electro" has started by Kraftwerk at 70s and ended when some people tried to put it inside 00s house/club music. This is not electro anymore and it is wrong that there is a club music genre with that name. 80% of the club music nowadays sucks IMO...just boring loops...not even acid house was so boring...

[rasmus]

thx for your comments spectral climax.
i actually know where the term "electro" comes from...
thats why i decided to label it electro house, cause it´s more "electro" then 90% of what´s in that genre
could have called it "dance" too, but that´s what im thinking of listening to snap!

[timbreman]

Originally Posted by burt3k

so timbreman what genre is it if it ain´t electro house?
it´s sure got some electro and house influences... so what would that sum up to? huh

grantlandau: i got to agree with you, you are a pretentious dick
"i decided not to listen because it was self-labeled funky" so you actually never listen to funk? in that case i don´t need you comments anyway fuuck
i labled it funky because it´s not what many people call electro house...

my point of view is:
bassline: could be electro house
pad and lead: 80ies electro influenced
beat: 8th triplets... always sound kinda funky to me, dunno why

Well as you mentioned the pad and lead have 80's influences in them and that is really what sets a large portion of the mood. There are just too many genres these days. There are some modern influences I can hear in the track but overly simplistic patterns imho.

I've heard a large amount of electro house over the last few years and it definitely doesnt sound like it to me. Realistically you could just go over to beatport.com and listen to some electro house tracks just to see what it sounds like.

[rasmus]

i´m actually writing an essay about what "electro house" is while being on gs and my conclusion is...

IT DOES NOT EXIST

what i mean is it´s not a genre yet, it´s too early to tell. even beatport doesn´t know what it is! they list trentemøller and discopolis in the "electro house" classics... if electro house was a defined genre these two could surely not co-exist in it.

"electro house" is just a label for all those guys who don´t want to be: french, funky, tech, minimal... whatever house, cause that stuff used to be the hip shit and now what ever comes along is called electro house... it´s got to be new, it´s got to be hip!

btw: i´m going to call my tracks" whatever house" in the future, to avoid this discussion... but i guess some one will chime in and say: "whatever it is, its not house!"

[timbreman]

According to wiki it exists. There is even a decent description there.

Electro house - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your theory could apply to any form of music. Pretty much every genre was born from another genre. Not everybody will agree on what it's supposed to sound like but that's human nature for ya.

Just write music for your own enjoyment and stop worrying how it's classified.

[rasmus]

yeah i´d say my theory easily applys to any kind of new music genre

my guess is that some famous music historian will write down his view on what "electro house" was, when it´s long time gone... then we will have a definition.

that´s the big problem im having writing my essay...
quoting wikipedia is a no go in scientifical work, at least in germany, as far as i know

[analogbass]

Of course it's electro, let's not get sidetracked with someone's asides. It easily qualifies for today's version of electro, period. Anyone who wants to argue otherwise really has too much free time, and this is coming from someone who remembers the original versions of electro as well, before it was called electro.

It's in the "ok" category; either leave it as is and forget it again or do further work to enhance it.

[chrisso]

Don't know about Electro House, but this is Electro:
YouTube - Mantronix, got to have your love

[space2012]

Originally Posted by chrisso

Don't know about Electro House, but this is Electro:
YouTube - Mantronix, got to have your love

thats not electro, is classic 1990s vocal house.
WTF,

[rasmus]

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is there a way to edit the title of the thread?
"What do you think about this funky electro house track? OR WTF IS ELECTRO HOUSE?"
would suit it better

[space2012]

Originally Posted by timbreman

Sounds nothing like electro house to me.
Think it sounds a bit generic and unimaginative.
I also think the post might get moved by mods as it's supposed to be in another section.
Sorry for being so blunt.

really bad day?
anyway... i disagreee

[space2012]

Originally Posted by burt3k

so timbreman what genre is it if it ain´t electro house?

grantlandau: i got to agree with you, you are a pretentious dick
"i decided not to listen because it was self-labeled funky" so you actually never listen to funk? in that case i don´t need you comments anyway fuuck
i labled it funky because it´s not what many people call electro house...

bassline: could be electro house
pad and lead: 80ies electro influenced
beat: 8th triplets... always sound kinda funky to me, dunno why

the lead at start with that arpegio sequence is verry 80s italo disco influenced.
but also sounds similar to some daft punk song, but feels backwards, sounds verry similar to some song but cant remember.

the pad sounds nice,
the double layered bass line, strange. but the idea could work with a diferent sound, something feels wrong there but the idea works, could be bad mixing.

the drums are more like electro house,
the high pitch lead melody at the end is verry anoing but i can understand it, and with a proper mix the idea works.

the filtered drums breaks are electro, no doubt.
the lead feels too dry= needs the delay of the highs pitch melody.

i get the idea, but at the end feels too repetitive becouse its bad mixed.
it needs better mix and more dynamic modulation, 3D sound, LR effects, and stuff like chorus & LCR delays, a bit of reverb, etc...

[ignatius]

Originally Posted by analogbass

Of course it's electro, let's not get sidetracked with someone's asides. It easily qualifies for today's version of electro, period. Anyone who wants to argue otherwise really has too much free time, and this is coming from someone who remembers the original versions of electro as well, before it was called electro.

i guess i have too much free time

check the touchin bass label for "real" electro

Touchin Bass (dr evil's music is insane)

there's still plenty of "real" electro out there being made and it's evolving like anything else...

digital distortions is another good electro label and satamile has put out some great stuff too... though they vary in focus somewhat

i don't pay enough attention to house music to tell the difference between all the split hairs of the genre. it's all just house music to me though obviously there's moods like any other genre and some of it is dark, some of it is happy and some of it is deep etc etc etc... but electro will always be electro for me.. house music can't that away from me.

for even more go to addictech and stroll around and listen to various things.. there's lot's of breaks and techno and IDM type stuff but there's a ton of electro

[rasmus]

thx for your comment space,
you´re absolutely right about that high pitched lead, it´s annoying.
i always think it´s cool when it drops in but it gets annoying after a few messures, it shouldn´t play continiously, just very short parts.

same thing applys to the arp lead at the beginning...

think i´ll stay with the basic arrangement, but strip it down a little and then find a few more new sounds for those parts that feel to sparse.
i feel there needs to be a real synthsolo, too

just bought some new speakers when i did this, so the sound of the mix should improve now that i´m used to them.


ignatius thanks for the listening advices, will check them out...

[dan p]

Ok, not funky.The electro thing?Mmnnn?No harmony?Boring for me.I like the intro and the way the groove works against the sequence.




Dan P

[crufty]

this to me is electro:
YouTube - Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock

My thoughts, constructive...and I'm definitely a case of dr heal thyself so take them with a grain of salt.

I like intros short and sweet so I may not be the best person to make suggestions.

In terms of arrangement, perhaps consider
1) Cut intro to 10 seconds
2) 4-8 bars of that loop. Maybe even two
3) Switch gears to a more funkier electro beat / sound. Something with a mighty SHWACK and a little Bwoop. Maybe a little Buzz or some lightly reverbed acid.
4) Then fold back @ 2mins for 45 secs, which is nice
5) Then switch gears again.
6) Tie it all together somehow.

New song I know and maybe not what you had in mind. Have fun!

ps. Don't mind the genre ****s. Counter the counter culture!

[Reptil]

whatever genre this belongs to, I think some of the sounds themselves are nice, you could make it a bit less bright, and have the instruments in the higher range of the spectrum "mash up" a little more. strings are nice and wide, no complaints there. Bass ok too.
I don't think you want to know what my opinion is about the song itself.

btw: this is classic vocal house early nineties. At least in my little universe.
maybe it borders your universe?
YouTube - Deep House Music: Blake Baxter - Brothers Gonna Work It Out


to you all. this (or any) is no time to have sand in your vagina

[chrisso]

Originally Posted by space2012

thats not electro, is classic 1990s vocal house.
WTF,

Wrong.
Mantronix was one of the main 'electro' bands. Sorry.
Mantronix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[dodgeaspen]

Not my kind of music. However I think the sound is clear from what I did hear. Keep it up.

[Acid Hazard]

Originally Posted by crufty

this to me is electro:
YouTube - Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock

That's not Electro, that's Freestyle. As even labeled in the video and the file name.

[Acid Hazard]

Originally Posted by burt3k

a friend of mine just called me in exitement and asked if this was my track... and indeed it is
i wrote it about 1 1/2 years ago, then i backed up my harddisk and did a reinstall, some how i did not remember this one at all. it sounds bad, pumps alot, guess i was a little bit overwhelmed by cubase 4s new sidechain-routing
and the leadsynths gating fx is not in sync... was just a quick bounce to show it to some friends.
anyhow think it´s a really cool track, what do you think?
is it worth to start working on it again?

BE CAREFULL THERE IS A CLICK AT THE START OF THE TRACK!!!

greetings from hamburg

rasmus

btw: i found some more cool tracks on my backupdisk... so check your backups from time to time

While not what most people think of "Electro-House" how a days, it does remind me of the early days of International DeeJay Gigolo Records. The stuff that eventually spawned the godawful crap known as electro-house now a days. Just needs more structure to it.

[kasprouch]

Modulate the synth lines a bit and it could work out pretty nice... discrete LP in and out between the lines to get em living with each other...





good job brother!