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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Between Harmony & Irregularity
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Thread Starter | Ensoniq Fizmo features talk
I wanted to open up this thread to talk about the features of the Fizmo and what makes it so interesting to use. Any tips, tricks, your Fiz sound creations, and any fun things that go with programming the Fizmo is welcome. It is hardly documented on the net what hidden features lie in the Fizmo. It's interesting and curious to read the Fizmo manual to find out about a couple other surprises. The manual mentions the the Fizmo only has a LP resonant 4-pole filter. But Sealed's page mentions the Fizmo does has not only 2 filters but they are both Multimode and they can be used in a bunch of different combos: 2LP/2HP, 3LP/1HP, Res-BP, etc. (Click on the Overview of the Fiz and then look under Filters). ENSONIQ FIZMO: Realtime Transwave Synth Another thing I noticed in the manual is there is a Global LFO that it lists. As we know, the Fizmo has only 1 LFO on the front interface. But a Global LFO can be used as a modulation Source, for those parameters that can be modulated. You'll see it listed on page 22 towards the bottom of the Fizmo manual. Since we have heard that there are "hidden features" in the Fizmo, I was curious to see that the manual actually mentions very briefly that the Fizmo has more Envelope parameters than are available on the front interface of the Fizmo. You can see this on page 23 of the Fizmo manual, in the middle of the page under the 'Note:' part. Iactually says the Envelopes are 5 stage Envelopes, but I've even heard that they are 6 stage Envelopes. Interesting to find that the manual acknowledges that there is more than meets the eye with the Fizmo. One thing I wanted to point out to people who just purchase a Fizmo, is the blinking 'Sound' buttons and 'Osc' buttons. When I first got my Fizmo about 8 years ago, I couldn't figure what was going on and how to program a single sound. Well, I could, but the stupid blinking lights made it confusing. So I wanted to point out You should read page 16 and 17 of the manual before programming the Fizmo. It talks about how you go about Layering sounds over parts of the keyboard in different ways. It also goes over the split feature as well as selecting and choosing any of the 256 sound (slots) to use with a preset. There is a certain method you have to use, basically double clicking in a specific way, which is why I say it's a must read. A quick tip: I didn't know this, but you can press both Osc buttons at the same time and whatever knobs you turn will edit both Osc. at the same time. Tip: To scroll through parameters (and I think presets), you can double click the up down buttons to go through the parameters quicker or you can triple click to go through them really fast. Something I haven't read about and don't understand is how to use and setup the Sysex #1-4 modulation parameters (in the modulation menus) on page 34, which I'm going to read next. And if anyone knows what NRPNs are being used for the hidden features, please do tell. Or even if you know what parameters are hidding, it would be nice to have this listed on the net here as a resource for Fizmo users. Last thought... I noticed on Sealed's page that Ensoniq was going to make a Physical Modelling synth in the future and call it the Fizmo, but they knew they were going bankrupt and they decided to give their current synth they were working on this name instead, which we now know as the Fizmo. I think them going out of business might have been the reason there is hidden parameters in the Fizmo. They probably didn't have the resources to invest in making these features accessible from the front panel or software. At least this is what I'm speculating. (It would've been nice if the designers at least put the hidden parameter's NRPNs on the net. Certainly they wrote them down.) Opinions or anyone know why these parameters were hidden from everyone?
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I think it definatively has to do with Ensoniq being bought out. The name "Fizmo" was meant for this transwave synth, not a VA, AFAIK. I'll look into the hidden parameters when I can. thanks for pointing out thumbsup |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Between Harmony & Irregularity
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Oh ok, so they were bought out then. I forgot how that went down. Sealed's page does mention that Ensoniq was planning a PM synth with the name Fizmo though. I'm trying to see about finding those NRPNs. There's a guy on the yahoo list who apparently made the OEM Fizmo version of Sounddiver. He mentioned that unfortunately they never documented those hidden features. tutt I guess that wasn't Sounddiver's job to begin with, it should've been Ensoniq's. One interesting fact I found out from the yahoo group was that the regular parameters on the Fizmo should only be edited from an external midi controller IF you plan to edit the hidden parameters of the Fizmo. Someone over there did a test and found out that if you edit a hidden parameter (from an external midi controller box) and then move a knob on the Fizmo's front panel interface, that hidden parameter will automatically go back to default. Kind of weird and interesting at the same time, but it seems to be true and good to know to utilize the NRPNs and Sysex without resets. In the meantime, let's get some discussion going or are there any Fiz users here? |
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I'm going to bitch slap each and every Apple employee I come across, for abandoning Sounddiver. but..... I found this groovy new site: going to check it out right now myself Fizmotropolis - The Ensoniq FIZMO site ![]() here's some other info on the Fizmo: ENSONIQ FIZMO: Realtime Transwave Synth Quote:
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Between Harmony & Irregularity
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That was a great interview! Thanks for posting that. Interesting how he likes the MR-rack. I think it has some good sounds in it, but some are cheesy. I'm not sure editable it is and if it is, then the front panel must be tough to edit it with. Both those sites are good resources for the Fizmo. What OS are you running to use SD? I'm guessing you have the dongle to get it to activate? Someone mentioned that SD will display what NRPN or sysex the hidden parameters are... Not sure if that is true. Have you found anything like that? |
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| I heard from an ex e-mu employee that the name fizmo was a joke (in the sense that they just came up with a funny name while developing it), but the entire company not knowing this released it as Fizmo in a rush to get the gear out and selling. when the two companies came together one side wanted to rush the product out. they didn't realize that the name was just some funny word they came up with, and released it with the name fizmo
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whoever came up with the name, it sure is easy to google it. (nothing else is there like it) | |
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Here's a quote from Sealed's page: "FIZMO originally meant Physical Modelling. It seems ENSONIQ was planning an even newer generation of digital synths, but it was when ENSONIQ was soon to be acquired by Creative Labs. The new phisical modelling synth did not materialize, but the name FIZMO was given to the Transwave synth, which became their last synthesizer." |
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i really cant chime in and give tips as i haven't had my fizmo long enough to know it inside and out but i have to say i really really dig this keyboard. everytime i sit in front of it i come up with something interesting and more importantly, useable. these hidden features are interesting although i dont hook mine up to a computer or even midi the thing. i just record live whatever lines i need to put down. i guess i need to consider midiing it up to my computer. |
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I'll check once the moving and the administration is kind of done (somewhere next week) | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Between Harmony & Irregularity
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Oh you're probably right. I had a ASR-X Pro and it's main (1st) soundset was called Gizmo. I can't remember, but I think it was a drum kit patch.
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I spent a lot of time with the FIZMO and found it to be crippled in modulation features. I much preferred a Waldorf/PPG for wavetable synthesis.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Between Harmony & Irregularity
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I prefer my MW1 for wavetable also, but when I want something bubbly or an organic synth sound, the Fizmo fits the bill. It's probably the only synth that I can make an organic plastic lead with. Seems like an oxy moron, but there is a good example of this in the Yahoo files-mp3 section. The Fizmo, as I've been told, actually has a ton more modulations that are hidden, it's just that the front panel doesn't give you access to all the other stuff. |
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MAN! I just got my Fizmo today, $300! This thing friggin rocks!!! I can't stop playing it, I feel like an 80's god in a wind tunnel with lasers shooting through the smoke. Now I just need a red leather jacket covered in zippers. But seriously, I know what people are talking about when they call this thing bubbly. There's fizz and gurgles under every knob. It's like half PPG and half early Chow Yun Phat movie soundtrack. This thing is exactly what I was looking for. I think I'm going to go poor some beer on the ground for all my dead homies at Ensoniq. oh, and I also got a Hartmann Neuron today, it's pretty cool too. I'm not going to say how much I paid for it
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Between Harmony & Irregularity
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![]() I so wish someone would start a company like Ensoniq again. | |
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old thread some nice examples really, they should've called it "transdimensional synthesizer" :-D |
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thumbsup skip to 2:11, add some LPF filtering and some reverb to the following: YouTube - Harvestman - Piston Honda Morphing Terrarium is in the same ballpark, Fizmo is different though.. more fizzy, spluttering, unstable YouTube - E350 & MATHS | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Between Harmony & Irregularity
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Yeah I have the MATHS, but have wanted to get the PH and E350. Those look like a lot of fun. I'm getting to the point that I want to sell stuff if I buy other gear, because usually if I don't the 'other' gear gets ignored. And I rather not end up on one of those A&E shows ![]() I hadn't heard those other two clips you put up before. They both look new. That first could easily go to a scifi/suspense/horror film. One thing I'm looking to do more of is process my Fiz. Not like it needs it, but I'm expecting universes to collide in my experiments. |
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Glad this thread got revived (for whatever reasons) - those are DOPE examples of the Fizmo. Funny, I don't remember it sounding that good in person when I owned one..but I never spent a lot of time programming it..
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that was also the reason for it's commercial failure. it's a bit ehmm "strange". in a patch you have to find some point where one sound collapses and another begins. hope this makes sense. |
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Can someone give me an accurate scientifical document on how transwaves work? Or does anyone know?
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You can think of wavetable synthesis as a variant of ordinary sample playback, only instead of playing straight through the stored waveform, it repeatedly plays a periodic looped portion, and the loop points are modulated. Following the example in the video, imagine controlling the "segment" played from a mod wheel, or whatever. The Ensoniq EPS and related models can actually do this arbitrarily on any sample, though without careful preparation the result is far more of a glitchy mess than a smoothly interpolated wavetable. Later models included specially tweaked sample libraries and playback engines that made this a lot smoother. | |
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I also read in another place that transwaves had some sort of harmonic modulation, but I assumed that they were completely talking out of their asses and really thinking of DX7s or something. Also, is it true that with each sample modulation, the single cycles were faded? I read that somewhere too. That's pretty much the reason why I asked for a more in depth description on how they really work. All of the stuff I read is conflicting in some way, including what you showed me and it seems nobody knows what transwaves really *are*. | |
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It's Ensoniq's take on the wavetables. They use longer waveforms that differ over time, instead of shorter, static waves (like the Microwave XT). from here Quote:
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| Lives for gear | I mean how is it done? I know what transwaves are, and how they are beneficial that's why I want to code a transwave synthesizer. I understand what they are and what they do, and how they do it, but I'm really concerned about the mathematics...
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There's a paper covering some of this: http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Wavetable-101.pdf I don't think Ensoniq's implementation contains any secret sauce, in particular. I suspect that rather than the paper's recommendations, the Ensoniq transwaves (at least the earlier ones) probably just did some simple loop crossfade for each "step" of the transwave (I mean non-real time, when making the ROM), and moved the loop points one cycle (i.e. switch to the next waveform) at the end points. With some effort you should be able to do the same thing with sampled sounds on an EPS 16+ or ASR10. | |
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