mopho 32 step sequence

[organsymphony]

so the mopho has a 16 step sequencer. luvverly jubberly.

but on the preset 'No Corn Yet' (Bank 1, Program 90). its most definitely a 32 step sequence.

i took a look in the sequence editor on the software and what they have is oscillator 1 set to do the first half of the melody, and oscillator two set to the second half. But, i don't understand how it plays one after the other.

Id love to use my mopho for a performance of "the robots" br Kraftwerk, and the bass sequence for this is 32 steps.

i tried just changing the pitches of the sequence allready there. but then it stopped working, and now its only playing the first half of the sequence..

does anyone know how to achieve this 32 step workaround? or is this some factory preset magic unuseable by the consumer?

[x2mirko]

i dont have a mopho, but i have an idea :D

i guess the preset only plays one OSC at a time? Can you sync the LFOs to the Tempo of the Sequencer? If thats possible, just take one LFO with a squarewave and sync it to the Tempo - use 32 steps for one cycle. Then you use the modmatrix (i hope it has one?) and route the LFO to both OSC Volumes. One with positive Amount, one with Negative Amount. Get the idea? That should turn one osc off while the other one plays its sequence and vice versa. Voila, 32 Steps. If you get really tricky, this might even work for 64 steps but only if you can turn the LFOs to cycles that are long enough...

As i mentioned before, i don't own a mopho, but that just came to my mind.

[DocT]

I made that patch. It's like xmirko described. A 32 step square LFO routed to osc mix so that the 2 oscs play alternatively.

[organsymphony]

ooh great, thanks!!

so i manage to input my own sequence with these '32 steps'. got that far..

only trouble is if on the osc 1 sequence i select destination as 'off' for a rest. it applies it to the second oscillator too. is there a way to avoid this?

the sequence im after is

OSC 1 freq D2 D2 C2 C2 D2 D2 C2 C2 D2 D2 Off Off F2 F2 Off Off
OSC 2 freq D2 D2 C2 C2 D2 D2 C2 C2 D2 D2 D1 D1 D1 D1 D1 D1

but as i said, the 'off' stops oscillator 2 aswell.

[Acid Hazard]

If i remember right, putting an OFF step on SEQ 1 will put one on all SEQ tracks as well.

[organsymphony]

Originally Posted by Acid Hazard

If i remember right, putting an OFF step on SEQ 1 will put one on all SEQ tracks as well.

so if i moved oscillator 1 frequency to say sequencer track three then it should stop it?

[Acid Hazard]

It won't stop it, but SEQ 1 is the only track that can have rests. 2-4 only have the reset option. Kind of odd, i know.

[DocT]

Originally Posted by Acid Hazard

,Kind of odd, i know.

Why ?

[Acid Hazard]

Why only have a rest on track 1? And why have that rest effect ALL tracks? I makes no sense to me. You should have the option of throwing rests on any sequencer track.

[DocT]

A rest means no sound for that step. No sound can only be once at a time, therefore it doesn't matter on which track of the sequencer a rest is positioned. It always means the same: silence

[organsymphony]

well. i suppose i cant complain. trying to get a 32 step sequence out of a 16 step sequencer. cant have everything!!

anyway! thanks a lot for the help guys!

[reptar]

Originally Posted by organsymphony

ooh great, thanks!!

so i manage to input my own sequence with these '32 steps'. got that far..

only trouble is if on the osc 1 sequence i select destination as 'off' for a rest. it applies it to the second oscillator too. is there a way to avoid this?

the sequence im after is

OSC 1 freq D2 D2 C2 C2 D2 D2 C2 C2 D2 D2 Off Off F2 F2 Off Off
OSC 2 freq D2 D2 C2 C2 D2 D2 C2 C2 D2 D2 D1 D1 D1 D1 D1 D1

but as i said, the 'off' stops oscillator 2 aswell.

Yes, there should be a way but you'll have to use another sequence slot. I got it almost working but it's going a little funny when the LFOs cross over.

To get it to work I had to swap round OSC1 and OSC2 in the way you've programmed them. Program seq 3 to be all 100 except for the rests you want in the first half of the sequence. Set its dest to ENV2 amt.
Set VCA Env amt to 0.
Set LFO2 to 32 steps, square wave and destination ENV2 amt.
To get the OSC stepping amounts right I used LFO1 with its amount 0, then used two mod slots, one positive and one negative, so the amounts were even. I could have just used the one LFO for both but I didn't realise that would be the way to go to get the OSCs even.

I did all this on an Evolver which is pretty much the same as a MoPho, at least I only used stuff common to both. I could send you the sysex of the patch if you wanted although I don't know if it'll load into a MoPho. Anyone know this? DocT?

Edit: Crap, I accidentally erased the patch when trying to save it. :(

[Acid Hazard]

Originally Posted by DocT

A rest means no sound for that step. No sound can only be once at a time, therefore it doesn't matter on which track of the sequencer a rest is positioned. It always means the same: silence

I always figured the rests were track specific, not really sequence specific. The way it works makes sense, i just wish you could have individual rests on separate tracks =o]

[DJMozza]

A rest means no sound for that step. No sound can only be once at a time, therefore it doesn't matter on which track of the sequencer a rest is positioned. It always means the same: silence

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Is there any way to attenuate the decay of the previous step in a given step? I am trying to write beats and have tweaked to the best of my knowledge (changed ADSR to resemble box shape, attenuated delays) but can't figure out how to have no sound on a step without carry on from previous step.
Rest or off don't seem to achieve this.

[ctrlshft]

Originally Posted by Hector

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Is there any way to attenuate the decay of the previous step in a given step? I am trying to write beats and have tweaked to the best of my knowledge (changed ADSR to resemble box shape, attenuated delays) but can't figure out how to have no sound on a step without carry on from previous step.
Rest or off don't seem to achieve this.

Drop sustain to zero, modulate decay w/ the sequencer. The higher the sequence goes, the bigger the decay cut.

Here's a sample of what it sounds like:

One saw osc, acid-y filter settings, a little EHX delay for flavor:

http://soundcloud.com/ctrlshft/dsi-t...equencer-decay

[DJMozza]

thanks for the tip! I'll check it out. thumbsup

[taktheride]

Originally Posted by DocT

I made that patch. It's like xmirko described. A 32 step square LFO routed to osc mix so that the 2 oscs play alternatively.

Thanks for it, it blew my mind when I got the mopho last year.
Which others did you create?

[DocT]

Originally Posted by taktheride

Which others did you create?

Quite a few. Bank 1/ Sound 2,5,7,8,10,22,32,33,35,38,41,43,54 and so on

[bearinthewoods]

Thought i'd post this in here as it seemed most relevant.

Does anyone know if its possible to use drum triggers or MIDI foot switches to activate a repeating sequence on the Mopho?

What I'm really wanting to do is run a repeating bassline and change its pitch a designated number of semitones via a MIDI trigger. Obviously get a keyboard controller would be the answer here but I'm hoping to avoid this as I'll be tied up on another instrument.

If its possible I imagine to go from an E to an A one would have to trigger the controller 5 times to reach that pitch - which would defeat the purpose.

Seriously doubting its possible but the mind does indeed boggle!

Thanks muchly.

[Rimwolf]

Originally Posted by bearinthewoods

Does anyone know if its possible to use drum triggers or MIDI foot switches to activate a repeating sequence on the Mopho?

What I'm really wanting to do is run a repeating bassline and change its pitch a designated number of semitones via a MIDI trigger. Obviously get a keyboard controller would be the answer here but I'm hoping to avoid this as I'll be tied up on another instrument.

This being Gearslutz, I'll point you to some gear that might help: the Keith McMillen 12 Step or SoftStep foot controllers.

[bearinthewoods]

yup, many thanks!