distortion pedel for industrial music?

[edit machine]

what is the best guitar pedal for slick industrial music type distortion. My main interest is in something to use on vocals and synths for a Nine Inch Nails / Ministry Vibe. Any ideas?

[alexp]

Originally Posted by edit machine

what is the best guitar pedal for slick industrial music type distortion. My main interest is in something to use on vocals and synths for a Nine Inch Nails / Ministry Vibe. Any ideas?

I like the DOD Deathmetal pedal! Its pretty wild, and really distorted!


alexP

[Shiny Turd]

I've gotten good results out of Zvex's Fuzz Factory, EH Big Muff and Ibanez's LoFi...but I found myself using bitcrusher plugins more on vocals.

I liked the Ibanez for drums mostly

[soundrick]

Originally Posted by edit machine

what is the best guitar pedal for slick industrial music type distortion. My main interest is in something to use on vocals and synths for a Nine Inch Nails / Ministry Vibe. Any ideas?

I'm on a similar journey as you.

Check out the "pedal effects" about halfway down the page, and there are a ton of sound clips of the various boxes.
a n a l o g u e h a v e n


Let the drooling begin.....

[decibike]

RAT 2
thumbsup for heavy industrial stuff

And you might want to try some parallel distortion; Run recorded track trough the pedal. Line up the samples of the distorted version so there's no phase issue. At mixdown; Add a bit of the distorted track to the clean track. I often prefer this method on vox. Distortion pedals are great but they do take away a lot of low end or turn your vox / lyrics into a big pile of mud.

[sctt_stone]

I recently bought a Pigtronix Poly Satuator. I am still tring to decide weather or not to keep it.
I think I like what it does but it is a bit much I guess.
At extream settings it is cool but I also like clipping the input on my Frostwave Blue Ringer for distortion without dialing in the Ring Mod effect.
I paid full price for the Poly but Noise Bug has one for 100 bucks. Wish I had known that sooner.

[Jay-]

I was told NIN uses now only guitar rig. Can any one confirm?

[organsymphony]

Originally Posted by Jay-

I was told NIN uses now only guitar rig. Can any one confirm?

Last thing i heard Trent was using a Line 6 Vetta 2

[OHM GHOST]

In studio vid's they seem to like the Effector 13/Devi Ever pedals and Death by Audio among the other more well known boxes
I own the Truly Beautiful Disaster...and it is.
Trent seems to be in a mostly (always a caveat) modular/analog phase
at this point.
Photos of NIN/Devi below.
MySpace.com - devi ever : fx famous people's devi ever : fx

[sheever]

Originally Posted by OHM GHOST

In their studio vid's they seem to like the Effector 13/Devi Ever pedals.

I would suggest Revalver MK III by Peavey right now.
beat everything i ve heard.

[krisstoff]

Marshall Guv'nor

[JDN]

the rat is great, the dod supra distortion is great too, boss ds1 alright. the thing you have to realize for vocal distortion is you don't want the real "metal" gtr pedals....they tend to scoop out the mids for a big gtr sound, but with vocals, it's all about the mids. sans amp plug in is quite nice too.

[modulation]

If the Ministry sound is what your after then you dont need pedals at all. What you need is a Marshal JMP Preamp and Record directly out if it. For Distorting synths and Such you can also try Sansamp the plugin or the actual Rack unit and also the pedal units all work awsome. Sansamp is great on almost anything... Vocals, Synths etc. Another Ministry Trick is to use a Tc Electronics 2240 and overload it. You can plug your input into the first channel and then plug the output of the first channel directly into the 2nd channel. Clip the signal to taste and using the Eq on both channels you can kinda tune the distortion to your liking.

[clusterchord]

Originally Posted by decibike

And you might want to try some parallel distortion; Run recorded track trough the pedal. Line up the samples of the distorted version so there's no phase issue. At mixdown; Add a bit of the distorted track to the clean track. I often prefer this method on vox. Distortion pedals are great but they do take away a lot of low end or turn your vox / lyrics into a big pile of mud.

+1000

i prefer this approach whenever i go for dirt/gritt, be it synths or beatboxes. esp its worthwhile with vocals. also, having pre- and post- eq to a distortion or fuzz box goes a long way in avoiding mud, and having just the right ratio btwn inteligibility and dirt. u can then EQ the clean vocal with some hp/lp filters to make it fit better with the processed one, and just barely sneak it under.


for synths, i like overdriving devices that weren't intented for that: input to EHX memoryman pedal, input to fireface hi-z (input1). even AD converters. its just awesome. sometimes this cna be more interesting than full out distortion/od pedals.

[Shiny Turd]

Originally Posted by modulation

If the Ministry sound is what your after then you dont need pedals at all. What you need is a Marshal JMP Preamp and Record directly out if it. For Distorting synths and Such you can also try Sansamp the plugin or the actual Rack unit and also the pedal units all work awsome. Sansamp is great on almost anything... Vocals, Synths etc. Another Ministry Trick is to use a Tc Electronics 2240 and overload it. You can plug your input into the first channel and then plug the output of the first channel directly into the 2nd channel. Clip the signal to taste and using the Eq on both channels you can kinda tune the distortion to your liking.

Ministry was overloading everything on the signal chain, from neve boards (psalm 69) to the tape machine, fx boxes and such, so yes, that's how they did it

[jsrockit]

NIN uses Metasonix stuff...

Vacuum Tube Modules for Electronic Music by Metasonix - Home

[Shiny Turd]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

NIN uses Metasonix stuff...

Vacuum Tube Modules for Electronic Music by Metasonix - Home

Among this other pedals

[ignatius]

Originally Posted by Shiny Turd

Among this other pedals

those all look well used.. or maybe he just took them all tot he beach or something. i'd love a ringstinger.

[Tibbon]

Honestly, just break stuff.

Go to the store, get the crappiest pedal you can get... and just start switching out parts, soldering on wires randomly, etc.

I made a KILLER pedal out of screwing up making a basic boost pedal out of a LM386. I just threw in random values of components, using it as a standard amplifier, threw in a few diodes and made something pretty sick. It didn't work "right" and had to have its input reamplified to work at all (wrong impedence on the way in) but it made some SICK sounds when layered with anything else.

A PSA-1 layered up with a big Muff also isn't bad. A Fuzz factory will do lots of fun things.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by Shiny Turd

Among this other pedals

Haha...I was thinking that right after I posted it... however, the Metasonix stuff would do the job this guy wants to do.

[clusterchord]

Originally Posted by Shiny Turd

Among this other pedals

wow.. just.. wow


id love (tone) some of those lovetones.

[the_man361]

yup, metasonix is a big part of the nin sound

[alexp]

I love how NIN is suddenly THE industrial band.. haha............



alexP

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by alexp

I love how NIN is suddenly THE industrial band.. haha............

alexP

Well, it is the easiest one (and maybe most accessible) to find in 2008... it isn't like industrial is mainstream otherwise.