Nord Wave

[carbon111]

Originally Posted by nicolasmasset

Is the normal synthesis engine of the wave equal to that of the lead 2x?
I really like the lead2x, so if the wave has had a change of sound, I'd be in some doubt about buying it. It's also a shame about the 2outs instead of 4...

As I said on the webpage, it sounds like the NL2X, not the NL3. thumbsup

Originally Posted by rodos

Only thing that sucks is the price . . . I just dont think it worth 2600$ considering its 49 keys, even though it does have a solid quality build. They really should lower it to 1800-2200$ range, especially during these times.

Most places I have seen are selling new ones at about $2000...

[nicolasmasset]

Originally Posted by carbon111

As I said on the webpage, it sounds like the NL2X, not the NL3. thumbsup

Looks like I just posted a few seconds before you! So I guess you think the price difference is worth it.

Any other folks care to comment? I've been looking for a hands on synth an after testing dave smith's and virusses I think I prefer the nords.

[Heathfinnie]

I loved the Nord Wave. I had one and sold it only because a VCS3 fell in my lap and I needed to sell something. I figured I could replace the Nord easier than finding another VCS3...

[jruz1]

Originally Posted by OurDarkness

Why the f7ck do they insist on placing all the knobs to the left?

So you can play with your right whilst tweaking out with your left hand.

[rodos]

Originally Posted by carbon111

As I said on the webpage, it sounds like the NL2X, not the NL3. thumbsup



Most places I have seen are selling new ones at about $2000...

Just saw on Novamusik that there going for 1650 new, damn think I might be getting one then.

[jetplane666666]

The Nord Wave is a gorgeous sounding instrument. The filters and oscillators are wonderful. The control is really tight and immediate. I played one for a few hours at Noise Bug in Pomona. I've been waiting to replace my Nord 2 until the Wave came down to $1500, because I believe the Wave concept should cost about $1500. Looks like it's almost time to buy.

Nord made a few questionable design decisions, in my opinion, however. I would like to get other users opinions on these.

I loved the 4 slots on the Nord Lead 2. The wave has only 2 slots, hence the 2 outputs. I wish they would have added the extra DSP to support 4 slots, since DSP is cheap and they were asking $2600 for the thing.

Losing the Nord 3's quantum leap in interface design was a mistake. The way the encoders allowed you to visualize the morph functions was superb. Now we are back to guessing, just like on the Nord 2. One of the Nord wave designers said they did it because people complained that there was no "stop" to the encoders so it was harder for people to jam on live, but I don't understand. Can anyone clarify?

No SP/DIF? Comon fellas, it's 2008(9) and people do use stage instruments in the studio. Not a big deal, but since I have open SP/DIF inputs, it is a minor annoyance.

[nicolasmasset]

I demoed the wave vs the lead 2x in the store yesterday, and have decided on getting a lead!

A couple reasons why:
- wave doesn't have arpeggio, although the chord function is darn nice!
- wave only has two slots, vs the 4 on the lead.
- wave can't split the keyboard!
- wave only has 2 outs, vs the 4 on the lead.
- wave only has 100 presets, most of them real sampled instruments. I want a synth with more electronic presets to start off from. I'm not buying a synth for "real" instruments, got Komplete for that.
- wave has too many oscillators. I don't want too many options.
- wave doesn't have a sine oscillator? Or did they put it in miscellaneous or something?
- lead's interface is a bit more intuitive imo.
- lead is about 500€ cheaper.

So there!

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by nicolasmasset

- wave doesn't have a sine oscillator? Or did they put it in miscellaneous or something?

In the manual, they write that you can produce a sine wave by choosing "FM" and getting the modulation to 0. Quite logical IMO.

[Narda]

Originally Posted by OurDarkness

I am sorry, but I consider it bad ergonomics. Period.

Other's gave some good reasons why it is like it is, but i don't.

Instead, just like you do, i have my opinion and i don't have any reasons why it should be the absolute truth but IMO, it's just COOOOOOOOOOL to have all controls on left.
It's NICE. Way to go! Sweet!!

[EMP3]

Lovely machine.

Must be overdue for an OS update?

Arpeggiator please, plus clock sync on the LFOs and delay would be nice.

[asynchro_nous]

Originally Posted by EMP3

Lovely machine.

Must be overdue for an OS update?

Arpeggiator please, plus clock sync on the LFOs and delay would be nice.

Yeah, it's absolutely absurd that a company with the DSP code savvy that Clavia has didn't implement these simple modern features in the first place.

[EMP3]

Originally Posted by asynchro_nous

Yeah, it's absolutely absurd that a company with the DSP code savvy that Clavia has didn't implement these simple modern features in the first place.

Yeay, maybe it's some misguided ploy to get Wave owners to buy the Lead too.

[Sofine]

Originally Posted by nicolasmasset

- wave only has 100 presets, most of them real sampled instruments. I want a synth with more electronic presets to start off from. I'm not buying a synth for "real" instruments, got Komplete for that.

The wave has 8 x 128 slots for presets (1024) preset slots and on their website there are lots of artist patches (and wave-friendly patches from the nord lead 2/3/G2 modular). I've loaded up many of these and some of them are very very good. I don't think there is a shortage of patches.

Here's more specs:
Nord Keyboards

[Sofine]

Originally Posted by EMP3

Lovely machine.

Must be overdue for an OS update?

Arpeggiator please, plus clock sync on the LFOs and delay would be nice.

I recently emailed Clavia about this and got the standard "we don't disclose future plans" response but they did say there were aware of this request so here's hoping.

[Fordy]

With regards to the Sine wave, it does have them and 3 were added in the last update:

• Misc SO & SA - 2 shapeable sinus waveforms, one with the addition of odd numbered harmonics, and the other with both odd and even numbered.
• Misc SS - A third sine wave, which is syncable. The Shape control sets the pitch of the "hidden" sync oscillator.

The Nord Wave is a definite keeper in my opinion, there's no way I'll ever part with it..

[EMP3]

Originally Posted by Sofine

The wave has 8 x 128 slots for presets (1024) preset slots and on their website there are lots of artist patches (and wave-friendly patches from the nord lead 2/3/G2 modular). I've loaded up many of these and some of them are very very good. I don't think there is a shortage of patches.

Here's more specs:
Nord Keyboards

Good point.

In terms of presets and free samples on the web site this synth is up there with the best.

The mellotron/chamberlain samples alone are worth buying this synth for.

[massimo]

any rumors about a rack/tabletop verson of the Wave?

Best regards
Massimo

[asynchro_nous]

Another feature that would really pique my serious interest in spending the considerable coin on this thing would be a comprehensive microtuning implementation -- last time I checked it lacks this; does it now have some form of microtuning capability with recent OS updates...?

[EMP3]

Originally Posted by massimo

any rumors about a rack/tabletop verson of the Wave?

Best regards
Massimo

Every comment I've seen about this is a flat "no", and I even contacted Nord myself with the same question and got the same response.

[EMP3]

Originally Posted by asynchro_nous

spending the considerable coin on this thing

Not sure of the dollar/euro price but based on the UKpound price I agree they pitched this one too high. It ranges £1600-£1700 new.

You can pick them up mint/boxed on ebay for around £900 though which is far more realistic.

For £900 this is a great synth.

[Spectral Climax]

Originally Posted by EMP3

Not sure of the dollar/euro price but based on the UKpound price I agree they pitched this one too high. It ranges £1600-£1700 new.

You can pick them up mint/boxed on ebay for around £900 though which is far more realistic.

For £900 this is a great synth.

The cheapest i can find on ebay is at 1200 uk pounds and not in mint condition but "like new" (there is a difference).

[danielb]

Nice demo thumbsup

I think we need more stuff like this, to really show what individual synths can do.

[EMP3]

Originally Posted by Spectral Climax

The cheapest i can find on ebay is at 1200 uk pounds and not in mint condition but "like new" (there is a difference).

£1200 is toppy. Surprised if it sells.

This one went for £931...
CLAVIA NORD WAVE on eBay (end time 17-Sep-10 18:48:50 BST)


Not sure if this one was boxed but it went for only £800, though collect-only probably influenced the price...
Clavia Nord Wave Synthesiser on eBay (end time 18-Sep-10 12:37:46 BST)