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Old 6th October 2008, 08:14 PM   #1
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Aruturia Hardware

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Looks interesting!

Also looks like Tom is remaking the SEM.....

Matrixsynth: Synth Pioneers - Update: A New Synth by Tom Oberheim?


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Old 6th October 2008, 08:21 PM   #2
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$3k msrp?!?!?
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Old 6th October 2008, 09:05 PM   #4
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Yeah... "Hardware" synth. I mean, I know all VA's are just soft synth's in a metal (or plastic) case, but when you are literally just taking existing VSTi's and putting them in a hardware case, that's kind of weak.

Although, I suppose it does have a modular flair to it, but still... the price is outrageous.
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Old 6th October 2008, 09:28 PM   #5
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So, this is hardware emulating software that emulates hardware?



I never cared for the Arturia soft synths, anyway.
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Old 6th October 2008, 09:28 PM   #6
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Anyone else notice the date on that? They actually announced that 2 summer NAMM's ago and there have been videos of it up for quite awhile. If it actually comes out, at that price, it'll FLOP.
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Umm...



You've consistently raised your voice with outrage and disgust at the mere mention of softsynths and the people who use them. You do understand that the guts of that thing are taken from Arturia's softsynth collection right?!

*runs outside to see if the sky is falling*

Wow that was quite the misquote.... If you had read that thread you would have noticed further down I mentioned it was a joke...

Yes I am hardware only. But I dont disrespect those tools enough to say that I dont take them seriously. I am not a softsynth fan... Thats pretty obvious. Please read the entire thread next time before you take my quotes out of context...

This really doesnt interest me in the least, Im not a huge software fan especially Arturia. However, posting things on here that only I am interested in is rather selfish and really doesnt allow people to get an idea of whats up and coming. In the interest of those interested I posted this! So please no more... OMG YOU HATE SOFTSYNTHS AND NOW YOUR PLUGGING THEM bs...



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Old 6th October 2008, 10:15 PM   #8
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Right... I had the Arturia collection and sold it because I thought it sounded flat.
I am assuming that this is just a cool way of having a dedicated PC and midi controller while calling it a hardware synth. If thats the case isnt your PC and midi controller a hardware synth when used to run soft synths?
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Just dont see the point in this - Ive never liked Artirias code and the idea of shoving it into a massive expensive hardware box seems like one big expensive chunk of mediocracy.

'mix a lifeless arp filter with digital sounding Moog Oscillators' woo hoo

Maybe is Creamware made something like this with their vintage emulations and Flexor 3 I might be interested....
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Just dont see the point in this - Ive never liked Artirias code and the idea of shoving it into a massive expensive hardware box seems like one big expensive chunk of mediocracy.

'mix a lifeless arp filter with digital sounding Moog Oscillators' woo hoo

Maybe if Creamware made something like this with their vintage emulations and Flexor 3 I might be interested....
I would be all over it!Flexor is so omg Fantastic with the modular 3...

For that pricetag id rather buy the Soniccore(creamware) xite1....way better deal and john bowen synths,audio interface with adat aes/ebu/analog/micpres.And all over E-sata=win.
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Wow that was quite the misquote.... If you had read that thread you would have noticed further down I mentioned it was a joke...

Yes I am hardware only. But I dont disrespect those tools enough to say that I dont take them seriously. I am not a softsynth fan... Thats pretty obvious, but when I hear things done creatively with them it really interests me. Please read the entire thread next time before you take my quotes out of context...


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I started with hardware when I was about 9 with a JX3P. Will not find a softsynth anywhere near this studio!!!
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Softsynths for me are stupid. I did not become a synthesist to sit around all day and tweak parameters with a mouse, on a machine that sounds like everything else coming out of my computer, due to my soundcard imparting a disctinct vibe to everything. I got into synths to tweak knobs, and god forbid actually play the damn things. When I am playing my Arp Solina, softsynths dont even exist. You can not get anywhere close to that or any of my other hardware with soft synths, end of story. And to the guy who said you cant get what Absynth does in hardware, check out the Hartman Neuron, Roland JD800, Korg Prophecy........


As for the person who said boo hoo its too hard, you are the reason that electronic music is so freaking boring at the moment. If you put in the grunt work, you will be rewarded hugely, with new unique sounds that no one else has. If you would rather tweak the cutoff of a terrible sounding preset in a softsynth and call it your own, dont compare yourself to hardware synthesists. I have that tattoo for a reason (my avatar). To distinguish myself as a synth player, not a computer jockey. Do not compare one to the other.

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Certainly interesting to see you've had a change of heart but please don't forget that people are actually reading the things that you post!
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Also looks like Tom is remaking the SEM.....

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Now that is exciting!
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My bad. I had grown so accustomed to this AlexP;






Certainly interesting to see you've had a change of heart but please don't forget that people are actually reading the things that you post!

I know. I really did sort of open my eyes to things a bit. I still do not like softsynths, and still will not have them in my studio, but who am I to say what works for someone other than myself? Even in all that I specifically said me. There will not be a soft synth in MY studio. FOR ME softsynths are stupid. These things are still very true. But I cannot tell other people what will work for them and what wont. I think at the end of the day to each their own, but for me, there will still be no softsynths


Besides your a crusty old analogue synth nerd to so shuddup!!!


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Guilty as charged! I wasn't trying to 'call you out' or anything, sorry if it came across like that. I was genuinely shocked (and curious) lol!

BTW, I'm about to turn 36 so easy on the 'crusty' thing!
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Guilty as charged! I wasn't trying to 'call you out' or anything, sorry if it came across like that. I was genuinely shocked (and curious) lol!

BTW, I'm about to turn 36 so easy on the 'crusty' thing!

Hey mate I hear you....

Im 33 this Thurs



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Old 7th October 2008, 01:24 AM   #16
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Lightbulb Unimaginative...

Is it just me or is anyone else bothered by the total lack of imagination with "new" gear like this?

Not only are they emulating someone ELSE'S creation, but now they are taking the emulation and sticking it BACK into hardware...

(Anyone get the irony here?)

Why can't these people create THEIR own synth, with THEIR sound, something, oh, I dunno... NEW?!!


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Old 7th October 2008, 01:59 AM   #17
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Hehe, you guys (Alex P and Jazz) are a couple of slutty bitches that is for sure. Whatever works right? I love the Arturia stuff for filling in those tiny spaces with something different for a more dynamic sound. After all, isn't that why we all buy so many different synths?

Was really looking forward to this one, the outdated "date" on the site is a huge let down. The least they could do is change it to "coming soon" or something.

@ DH, I dunno, but I hear ya. But...every synth has it's thing it does you know? The TB303 sucked ass until kids bought them at pawn shops and made acid music. Suddenly it's cool to own one. I think it should be more up to the user to take it further. It's a great time to be able to have some of the great synths currently around with a whole new pallet of features added in that we didn't have before. Isn't it the limitations that make us move forward?
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Old 7th October 2008, 02:00 AM   #18
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Im 33 this Thurs

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Im 37 this Thurs!!!

Nice!!! I will raise a glass to ya!



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Im 37 this Thurs!!!
My birthday is Sunday...spooky.

Here's to extra slutty b-days all around!

(Since Alex is the 'kid' in the bunch I say he buys the first round!)
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Old 7th October 2008, 04:03 AM   #21
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Is this the same as a PC and a midi controller? ummm... no. Pcs aren't dedicated to music. They have all sorts of other BS on them to make them streamlined enough to be a dedicated music machine. This IS a dedicated machine MADE TO run music software. This will be MUCH faster than your little PC at home with much better DACs. Can you make your own synth with different modules? No. Not on a PC. I think this is a really cool idea, and closest we've seen is the Korg Oasys. Though the price is WAY out of hand, which is a bummer as it will lead to small sales most likely. This machine gives you the benefits of VSTis with all the benefits of hardware. W/O the shitty PC interface.
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My birthday is Sunday...spooky.

Here's to extra slutty b-days all around!

(Since Alex is the 'kid' in the bunch I say he buys the first round!)
First round on me......

May all your sinewaves stay round and all your triangle waves be pointy!


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Old 7th October 2008, 08:34 AM   #23
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Interesting concept reminds me of the PPG Realizer.
Sounds like shit, though. Too expensive as well.

One SEM to go please!
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May all your sinewaves stay round and all your triangle waves be pointy!


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Is this the same as a PC and a midi controller? ummm... no. Pcs aren't dedicated to music. They have all sorts of other BS on them to make them streamlined enough to be a dedicated music machine. This IS a dedicated machine MADE TO run music software. This will be MUCH faster than your little PC at home with much better DACs. Can you make your own synth with different modules? No. Not on a PC. I think this is a really cool idea, and closest we've seen is the Korg Oasys. Though the price is WAY out of hand, which is a bummer as it will lead to small sales most likely. This machine gives you the benefits of VSTis with all the benefits of hardware. W/O the shitty PC interface.
Looks to me like a Neko that you can't load 3rd party softsynths onto
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It has a nice screen (well... it's a mockup in the pic perhaps...) and a 'panic' button.

I like 'panic' buttons.

I'd say it'd sound nice enough... and it does seem to have a lot of handy features. I wouldn't say no to it if someone left it outside the door and rang the doorbell.
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I think the really exciting news here is that Tom Oberheim is making a new SEM. From the info I have gathered, its going to be identical to the old SEM except for two things.


1) Due to sourcing issues, theres a few parts that will be different in this one as opposed to the original.

2) There will be basic CV/gate control over midi. Hopefully we get control of pitchbend, and filter with that, but its unspecified.


Regardless, if the sound is still there, it will kick the crap out of any of the newer stuff out there, including the Dave Smith stuff, and if he can keep it under a grand, he will do well.

We shall see.


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are we talking a multi voice SEM - or just a single module like this?

Im not sure why its that exciting - seeing as its a pretty limited mono module - and would cost a packet to get 4 voices - which would still need to be connected then individually programmed per patch....

Not sure what the pros are.....is there something about the SEM Im not getting?
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I still think the SEM just has one of the nicest filters, and some of the deadliest low end ever. That osc was perfect, and I dont think there has been one like that in a long long time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZRPuWQ7F9w

Edit - and get a pair of em!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yFMb...eature=related



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