sampling mono synths and playing back chords

[massimo]

I am finally about to buy an Emulator 3 rack sampler.
I know it has analog filters and amplifiers, and should sound great.
My question: does anyone of you have any experience sampling mono synths (say Studio Electronics SE1 or Sequential Pro-one) on it and playing back chords?
Would you have the Emu doing the filter or volume envelope or would you sample the long enveloped tail? Or whatever tip you have...
Is this a very bad idea universally proven wrong? Would sampling a Pro-One result in a decent Pro 5 approximation?

best regards
Massimo

[aeonlux]

Who here creates their own Multi-Samples and what's your technique?

making an SH-2 monosynth a polysynth - Harmony Central Musician Community Forums


cheers,
Ian

[shadowfac]

I've done it a few times. In my experience, the best results are obtained when the original sound does not have a lot of modulations, so you give the sampler's engine something to work with. I obtained some good pads and drum kits by sampling analog monosynths into my Emu ESI-2000 sampler. I no longer have a hardware sampler (except the Korg ES-1), but I've also sampled stuff into my PC and exported it as a sfz file to load into Cakewalk Dimension Pro. The results are pretty good and a lot of the original character is maintained.

[SWAN808]

Hi there - I started the SH2 thread above - and I have to say - using a sampler with analogue filters is a pretty neat idea - as using software isnt quite the same...

Id be interested to hear how your results go...

BTW what are some good hardware samplers with nice analogue filters?

[dlmorley]

The EIII is a superb sounding machine! Congratulations.
I would do both things. Some sounds need the original filter and envelope. Other sounds can be sampled raw and use the EIII for envelopes and filters (pads, strings etc I usually do this)The EIII will make everything sound like the EIII (kind of) which is not a bad thing, but if you want a minimoog filter sweep, then better multi sample the entire thing. I do this setting the EIII to sample every third note, so per octave I have 4 samples. Sounds good enough to me.

[Edward]

All good tips, another thing I sometimes do is to go back through the analogue synth's filter.
ie: multisample a wave from a Korg MS10, play it polyphonically with the output from the sampler going through the MS10 filter. Of course it only works if you are playing block chords because there's only one filter and filter envelope on the monosynth (technically: paraphonic).
Still, if you play block chords it can be cool, makes people think I've got a PS3100 :-)
Then you can start stacking and detuning oscillators on the sampler, or playing (for example) SH101 oscillators through a Pro One filter etc.

[Edward]

Oh yeah, EIII is awesome, I've mixed down whole records just done on one of these, was fantastic-sounding.
I wish there had been an "MPC" style version of the EIII!

[CalvaryBand]

You could get a SP-1200, kind of like an MPC but with a great filter.

[Edward]

...and almost no sample memory!

I agree the SP1200 and SP12 are awesome but have you used an EIII?
It has a proper usable sequencer you can do a whole musical track on, amazing filters etc.
A groovebox version would've been cool just because the EIII was so massive and always crashing. I suppose the nearest thing the the SCI440.

I heard the EIII rack is more reliable than the keyboard, I hope the OP lets us know how he gets on with it. Does it have the sequencer from the keyboard version?

[dlmorley]

The rack has the sequencer. It's identical minus the keyboard as far as I am aware.
I had one, but prefer having the keyboard version.

[JayPee]

Up!

Actually, I'm used to use samples...and even mono sample to create chords...so I was wondering if buying an code/omega mono with filters, thanks to sampler (in ableton) or Kontakt 4 I can have the same result than buying an omega 4...you see?