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reamping synths

im really keen on trying a bit of reamping to make the whole mixing process more fun, have more creative options, give my synths some real world exposure etc... cant find much about it on the net, what little I can find seems to suggest it is a good look.
Anyone done much of this, and want to share their tips/secrets? Thanks
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cheers man. any more for any more? or has this technique not been used since 1984?
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im really keen on trying a bit of reamping to make the whole mixing process more fun, have more creative options, give my synths some real world exposure etc... cant find much about it on the net, what little I can find seems to suggest it is a good look.
Anyone done much of this, and want to share their tips/secrets? Thanks
There are so many variables, you just have to start doing it with what you got and learn your setup.

-It depends on the amp, the mics, the pedals et cetera.

-It depends on the interface, the gain staging et cetera.

The list goes on.

Just buy a reamp box and go to town.

It is a good way to add warmth, grit, yada yada.

Think of how many tones a decent guitar amp can give, the same with re-amping.

Oh and did I mention mic placement on the cab????

You just gotta dig in, there are no pitfalls really because if it sounds good it sounds good and another nice thing is micing a guitar amp is fairly easy to do.

I use a combination of an SM57 and a Cascade Fathead II ribbon mic to get a lot of great tones out of an old Ampeg combo.
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Since I'm kinda poor at the moment, I've had a lot ov luck using this plug in with synths:



Voxengo - Boogex
Boogex is a guitar amplifier plug-in with a variety of sound shaping features. With Boogex it is possible to get heavy distorted sound as well as slight distortion sound. Boogex is also able to apply any speaker cabinet impulse response (selection of built-in impulses is available). Processing latency is very modest - 96 samples (2.1 ms at 44.1kHz). Boogex comes with several example factory presets.
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Don't overlook pumping it out through your mixing speakers and recording it back into the daw with mics, then mixing that in with the original sound. You will need to nudge the recorded track back in time with the original or it will get phasey.
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Don't overlook pumping it out through your mixing speakers and recording it back into the daw with mics, then mixing that in with the original sound. You will need to nudge the recorded track back in time with the original or it will get phasey.
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This technique can be found in the Q&A with Bruce Swedien -section

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thanks, that's interesting. any other big engineers use this technique, does anyone know?
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thanks, that's interesting. any other big engineers use this technique, does anyone know?
When I was an assistant a big name English producer did this with a whole mix and slid it in under the mix in parallel. Gave some awesome mid crunch. That's where I picked it up.
He also printed the mixes to half inch at +12 - +13 dB.

Speaking of speakers, in almost the opposite end, feeding it into a set of headphones and putting them over a condenser mic and re-recording that gives a great sonic for thinner lower-fi parts.
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good thread.

would it be fair to say then, that there really are no rules?

cabs, monitors, even headphones.

mics, no rules either then. just to see what works best for what.
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The only rule is "There are no rules"
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I tried this at my cousin's studio last night, just a test run with one condensor in the sweet spot of a pair of dynaudios to see what happened, it instantly made my synth stabs come alive and put them in a more real place. Success! I can see us using this to some extent in all our mixes from now on... With a bit more experimentation on placement etc. I reckon it will be possible to get some really creative results...
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