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11th June 2008
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| Lives for gear  Join Date: May 2008 Location: Athens, Hellas
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Thread Starter | "Software vs Hardware", is dead, get over it and move on!!!! Software vs Hardware, 0101110 against analog single wave waveforms. That is yestarday's news. I mean ............. Who cares??? Embrace the future.... The next genration of technology is around the corner and it is inside you The next upgrade will be to your brain!!! Music is dead , welcome HyperMusic Music becomes at last alive,a real sentient being!!! BBC News | Sci/Tech | Biological computer born SciGuy: The rise of the biological computer Scientists Create Biomolecular Computing Device with Bacterial Phenotype Output - Medgadget - www.medgadget.com Biological computer diagnoses cancer and produces - ImmInst Forums Welcome to IEEE Xplore 2.0: Programming Living Cells to Function as Massively Parallel Computers  Why get stuck to the past? Evolve or get extinct!!!
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11th June 2008
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 | Software vs Hardware, 0101110 against analog single wave waveforms. That is yestarday's news. I mean ............. Who cares??? Totally agree with this! Then you lost me....... Either way, interesting post! cheers! alexP
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11th June 2008
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Thread Starter | I edited my post several times, sorry. I have posted the links , it should make sense now. |
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11th June 2008
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| I disagree. My hardware is independant of crappy non-standard hardware and OS update obsolescence. dfegad software instruments and sequencers. dfegad AI. fuuck |
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Nope. You still don't get it. NI ! As "Natural Intelligence", we are talking real neurons here, capable of forming their own circuits depending on the problem they are facing like our brain neurons. Imagine a Super Synth -Computer - Sentient being which can understand and fell music. A synth that can evolve and learn , adapting to our personal preference and musical goals. A synth with no knobs and Lcds. A synth you can talk to or connect directly to your brain. A real organic Upgrade. I way to understand music , never imagined before. Light years ahead of Analog synths and Quad Core PCs! | |
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11th June 2008
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| This still qualifies as AI. But dfegad NI. Sounds like a breeding ground for musical masturbation. |
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11th June 2008
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| Gear addict  Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver BC
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| All I'm going to say about this is that Roland made my 909 25 years ago. It doesn't matter that Roland doesn't support it anymore; If it ****s up, I take a soldering iron to it and fix it using basic, readily available electronic components. If NI ceases development on Reaktor and it doesn't work in some future iteration of OS X, I'm left holding onto a bunch of defunct, useless code that will not work unless I want to also acquire an obsolescent computer on which to run my obsolescent software. Whatever works for you, though. |
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11th June 2008
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| Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2008
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| okay here we go the hardware vs software again. hardware is good cause it gives u hands on u can tell me how great software might be etc, but still man some hardware just kick arse if u want to believe it or not. i think many of the people who love software that much are either the people who dont want to spend alot of money on hardware or they use cracked versions of software and we all know that beats anything hardware can do cause lol wow free vs money how can u beat that? u actauly telling me some native instrument software is beter than something like a moog, thats like me saying the ferrari i drive on this computer game is beter than a real one...agrea or disagree if u want... no ways in hell i would go and pay 100s of dollars for software i rather just buy a hardware synth much beter...even if u look at names that people will always know u ask alot of people do u know moog they will probably. u ask what software u know. lol wow fl studio? just a diff ballgame when it comes to hardware. |
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11th June 2008
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Thread Starter | LOL.... you people are funny.... I think you love a good fight.... I do not blame you.... it is fun  dfegadsoftware's 01010101 dfegadhardware's one way to do all things dfegaddfegad analog boringness Bring the juicy neurons baby  Biocomputers are the future! |
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11th June 2008
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| Gear Guru  | What exactly is your point?  |
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11th June 2008
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| I love Star Trek. |
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11th June 2008
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| Moderator  | you can wake me up for startrek! thumbsup read also: William Gibson, Philip K. Dick here's some early borg stuff: Top Pentagon Scientists Fear Brain-Modified Foes | Danger Room from Wired.com
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11th June 2008
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| Yeah Im not getting into a hardware vs software debate again. Everyone here knows what I use and why I use it. Interesting tech though. Maybe just not for (my) music. alexP |
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11th June 2008
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| The only way that "Software vs Hardware" debate would go away is for people to stop making threads like this, it doesn't really achieve anything. |
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11th June 2008
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| I just got the Flash Gordon DVD! |
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| I prefer software because it is affordable. If I had enough money, sure I would have tons of nice hardware synths...........DUH! What is the point of this argument anyways..... |
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11th June 2008
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| dfegad cyborgs dfegad flogging a dead horse. use both hardware and software. |
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11th June 2008
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| Threads like these makes me really wanna bite into something....where is emo halo when you need a good Plastiklike comment?...Lame!
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11th June 2008
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| PC software instruments suck.  |
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12th June 2008
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| Flash Gordon! That stuff rocks!!!! |
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12th June 2008
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| This is boring me.............. |
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12th June 2008
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| Lighten up. Pretty easy to see most of the people in this thread have a sense of humor about it.  |
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12th June 2008
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|  What is music? Man, I think the point has been missed altogether: Plugs, hardware... all beaten to death by all of us. And who cares? The question that remains and won't be answered here is: What is music? Why do humans make it? What purpose does it serve? It's really an odd thing to do if you think about it.... The point is, music is a human driven phenomenon and need, in whatever form that takes.  -andrews  P.S. Oh, the A6 sounds like plastic. |
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12th June 2008
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| Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: People's Republic of Manchester
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| You idiots are stuck in the past with your analogue crap, and your digital rubbish. I use only ORGANIC NEUROSYNTHESIZERS!  And +1 on Phillip K. Dick, he is one of my heroes. One of the great novelists, and he can bend your brain like no other. |
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12th June 2008
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| Who cares? Well you would care if you had problems to get certain sounds in your daw. Then the question is sort of relevant, no? But the whole debate on which is better is ******** IMO. So where can I buy this BIO daw anyway? |
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12th June 2008
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You do not need to! You are born with one inside your skull, free and fully upgradeable. The only tricky stuff is to learn to control it. Nowdays it takes a lifetime . But the recent development in biotechnology will shade some light in how our brain works, how can be tamed and how can be expanded. Musically that means that will give us the extra intelligence to go beyond music and maybe some extra organic hardware to help us reach our goal. But the one thing that is unique to this technology compared to the one used in synths now is that is not deterministic. IT can be whatever you want it to be, think of it as a complete modular synth with a brain that goes far beyond AI. AI is limited to the software accompany it. It does what the programmer tells it to do. While neurons can create self conciousness , and build new connections between them depending on the problem they are facing. They can expand different areas , all it takes , as our brain , is practice. So why deal with inferior technology like hardware synths and software when obviously the best synth in the world is our brain. Practise , Practise, Practise..... Do not worry about the rest! The future is inside you! | |
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