Micro Q, Micro Q Phoenix, Blofeld?

[sctt_stone]

Ok so what are the the real differences between the Q and The Q phoenix
Is the Blofeld better?

[F5D]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

Ok so what are the the real differences between the Q and The Q phoenix
Is the Blofeld better?

The difference between the Q16 and Q16 Phoenix is the paintjob. Blofeld is a completely new design. Compared to Q, the blofeld has:

-only 1 stereo output compared to 3 stereo outputs of Q
-bigger lcd display (very informative)
-wavetables from microwave series instead of only 2 of Q
-new effects, especially lots of different distortion models
-dynamic polyphony, depends on the sound architecture
-less knobs, no keyboard

If you can live with only 1 stereo output, blofeld offers alot more features and possibilities to program new sounds. The big lcd is very good. I like the blofeld alot.

edit. Misread the Q as microQ at first, text fixed.

[sctt_stone]

If you have owned three different Micro Qs Is it safe to assume that you have grown board with them? Also is the sound quality different?

Originally Posted by F5D

The difference between the Q and Q Phoenix is the paintjob. Blofeld is a completely new design. Compared to Q, the blofeld has:

-only 1 stereo output compared to 3 stereo outputs of Q
-bigger lcd display (very informative)
-wavetables from microwave series instead of only 2 of Q
-new effects, especially lots of different distortion models

If you can coupe with only 1 stereo output, blofeld offers alot more features and possibilities to program new sounds. The big lcs is very good. I like the blofeld alot.

edit. Misread the Q as microQ at first, text fixed.

[halfguard]

ive got a micro q the i underuse. ive gotta start using that thing to see what it really has.

[F5D]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

If you have owned three different Micro Qs Is it safe to assume that you have grown board with them? Also is the sound quality different?

Well, there was nothing wrong with the microQ's I had but there were times when I had to sell something to get something new, so the microQ just happened to be the synth which had to go (for three times, yes ).

I have not owned Q but microwave xtk, microwave 1, pulse, microQ and now blofeld. IMO there is not much difference in sound quality between xtk, microQ and blofeld for example. However, the different oscillators, filter types etc. affect the sound. I have not compared Q and microQ but what I have heard that there is not much difference either but the Q offers ppg filter and the other filters sound different too. There are also some other slight differences in filter routing etc.

[DevonB]

Originally Posted by F5D

I have not compared Q and microQ but what I have heard that there is not much difference either but the Q offers ppg filter and the other filters sound different too. There are also some other slight differences in filter routing etc.

One of the difference is the amount of DSP chips supporting the engine too. I have heard the Q does sound better, but I only have a Q and have never played with a microQ. I've heard from a few people that have had both that the Q does sound better. I'd really like to compare with someone who has a mQ who's willing to record some presets out so we all can listen.

Devon

[cosmos]

i own a micro q, 2 q keyboards and a q+, the q sounds better then the Micro q, i don't know really why, might be a build issue but theres definitely a difference in sound. the q+ is in a different league. ill post some clips soon, its a kind of mess here right now.

[DevonB]

Originally Posted by cosmos

i own a micro q, 2 q keyboards and a q+, the q sounds better then the Micro q, i don't know really why, might be a build issue but theres definitely a difference in sound. the q+ is in a different league. ill post some clips soon, its a kind of mess here right now.

If you could post direct, back-to-back comparisons of the mQ and Q, that would rock! I'd really like to hear the preset A01 LosAngeles2019 the most at this point. Anything else would be great too. I just knew Komplexer with mQ patches loaded in was way way way different.

Devon

[Farshad]

Originally Posted by DivineChemical

I had a Micro Q, but I could never get into it. It just sounded too 'Virus-y'.

+1 thumbsup

[Tomer1]

I thought waldorf would do the vsti total intergration concept with the Blofeld,
Why didnt they?

[F5D]

Originally Posted by DivineChemical

I had a Micro Q, but I could never get into it. It just sounded too 'Virus-y'.

Hmm, that sounds strange. IMO the microQ and Virus sound totally different. Virus is soft and dark whereas microQ is angry and sharp. Maybe you tried both synths with manuel schleiss soundsets? He programs the same sounds for all synths.

Originally Posted by Tomer1

I thought waldorf would do the vsti total intergration concept with the Blofeld,
Why didnt they?

That would have increased the price of Blofeld. It takes alot of working time to program a plugin like Virus control and update it basically all the time to keep up with all the changes in operating systems and the DAWs which it is reported to support. I have been following the path of virus ti since it was announced and it was not an easy job for access to make the plugin work and they are basically married with the thing now. When they stop supporting it, there will be huge moan all over the internet. This is probably also the reason why they have not introduced a new version of virus yet. It was alot easier before when B and C series didn't need any software plugin to be supported.

The idea of integrating synths into DAW is good but it can be quite problematic. It becomes even more unreliable when you have several different synths "integrated", at least via USB. IMO waldorf made the right choice. Currently they don't have any extra time to support such a plugin integration. They are busy building the Stromberg.

[plaid_emu]

Originally Posted by DivineChemical

No, I program all my own sounds. The character is nearly identical outside of the usual Waldorf 'click'.

I don't know about this one........ maybe the character is "loosely" similar, and I'm talkin Nina Hartley loose.

I think we've had this disagreement before.

I liken the Virus to a synthetic, rubbery sort of polymer and the Waldorf is more of a shiny metallic alloy..... liquid, like mercury but very tough below melting point.

I know it sounds like I just dropped some killer Windowpane but that's the only way I can describe it.