Roland v-synth xt vs v-synth gt

[lospat123]

anyone work with them before? is it worth buying the xt cause i see they go for about 1100 on ebay so its a good price?
what is the differnce realy between these two and is it realy harder to control things with the xt?
im looking at this as my first or second synth..

[Jim Stout]

The V Synth XT would be a great first synth. It has a lot of cool technology in it.

The V-Synth GT is like having two V-Synth XTs.

But, V-Synth GT does not have the VC-1 (D-50) in it.

The other great thing about the GT is you can use the vocoder and the V-Synth engine at the same time.

As far as "control" goes... The GT is a keyboard and the XT is a Rack. That speaks for it's self.

You can add any cool MIDI controller to the XT and have plenty of tactile knobs and sliders to tweak!

All of the parameters of the XT can be controlled via MIDI.

1100 is a good price for such a cool synth!

It will keep you busy for many days to come!

[Absent1]

Originally Posted by DivineChemical

I've never had any hands-on time with the V-Synth, but I see a lot of people using them. Is there anything about them that makes them stand out from other VA's?

The cosm filters are fantastic on it IMO.

This a keyboard that is total hands on tweaking and to be honest the keyboard that I get the most sheer enjoyment out of.

With in minutes you can create some truly unique sounds, from loading your own samples to creating patches.

Different than other VA's well I do not know of anything that compares to it in sample manipulation.

Cheers, Rob

[reptar]

For the price of the GT I'd rather have a V-Synth and a V-Synth XT. Pretty much the same amount of power, plus you get the D-50. You miss out on the AP stuff but that doesn't really blow me away. You also miss out on the huge depreciation you get from buying new.

I might be a little biased as an original V-Synth user, but I think the biggest upgrades in the GT were cosmetic. The GT still can't import samples properly either, which is a bit crap.

[Jim Stout]

Originally Posted by reptar

For the price of the GT I'd rather have a V-Synth and a V-Synth XT. Pretty much the same amount of power, plus you get the D-50. You miss out on the AP stuff but that doesn't really blow me away. You also miss out on the huge depreciation you get from buying new.

I might be a little biased as an original V-Synth user, but I think the biggest upgrades in the GT were cosmetic. The GT still can't import samples properly either, which is a bit crap.

You can use the librarian to import samples.

The GT is also an Audio Interface. You can sample via USB.

The GT has Balanced outs and 24bit/96k converters.

But you can't go wrong with a V-Synth and an XT either.thumbsup

[lospat123]

will it be a waste to buy the xt? or is it best to go out save the money and buy the gt? the gt is realy a shitload of money but checking the videos of it on youtube realy made me amazed at what it can do and how it sounds. does the xt sound the same? the ap stuff does seem to make a big diff in the sound...

[synthoid]

Even if you end up getting a GT, you won't end up using AP on every patch. The V-Synth has a lot of technology in it. It has VA oscillators as well as sample playback and variphrase. As someone else mentioned, the COSM filters are great (to my mind, they are the best thing about the synth in fact). Tons of envelopes and modulation possibilities. AP is a pretty small piece of the pie IMO.

There's no way that getting an XT for a decent price would be a waste of money; it's already a classic synth.

-synthoid

[Absent1]

Originally Posted by lospat123

will it be a waste to buy the xt? or is it best to go out save the money and buy the gt? the gt is realy a shitload of money but checking the videos of it on youtube realy made me amazed at what it can do and how it sounds. does the xt sound the same? the ap stuff does seem to make a big diff in the sound...

IMO the XT would not be a waste because you are going to pay premium price for Rolands flagship synth ( except that Fantom I guess )

I just have the poor bottom of the barrel original V-synth , and like I said earlier I enjoy it more than my Polar , Polyevolver, Microwave XT any of my newer synths.

Plus like Jim said the XT has the D-50 card and the vocoder cards.

However in true slut fashion buy the GT.

I bought the Original when it came out and payed a crapload for it.

[DarkPlasma]

im a bit confused with the GT.

ok, is it more of a module than a synth?
Is it possible to start with just the waveforms?

[Jim Stout]

Originally Posted by n***N

im a bit confused with the GT.

ok, is it more of a module than a synth?
Is it possible to start with just the waveforms?

Sure... You can start with just a Sine wave then us FM to modulate that Sine wave with a drum loop.

I'll leave the rest to you.

[Crandak]

Originally Posted by Jim Stout

The other great thing about the GT is you can use the vocoder and the V-Synth engine at the same time.

Hey Jim if I get the xt rack can I record a vocal track into my daw and then run that track through the synth engine? In another thread where you demo'd the gt you played a female vocal track with a really lush pad. I want to be able to do that but don't have the need to do it in real time. I wish they had a gt rack! I would really like to take a big ass warm fat analog pad out of the studio electronics code and run a vocal with that.

[Jim Stout]

Originally Posted by Crandak

Hey Jim if I get the xt rack can I record a vocal track into my daw and then run that track through the synth engine? In another thread where you demo'd the gt you played a female vocal track with a really lush pad. I want to be able to do that but don't have the need to do it in real time. I wish they had a gt rack! I would really like to take a big ass warm fat analog pad out of the studio electronics code and run a vocal with that.

Sure you can do that.

Keep in mind that in the XT you either run Vocal Designer or the V-Synth Engine.
Not both at the same time.

But since you don't need to do it in real time the XT will do exactly what you need.

[Jim Stout]

Bump

[Crandak]

Originally Posted by Jim Stout

Sure you can do that.

Keep in mind that in the XT you either run Vocal Designer or the V-Synth Engine.
Not both at the same time.

But since you don't need to do it in real time the XT will do exactly what you need.

Jim,
Just a clarification. could I run a vocal through the vocal designer in xt then run that processed vocal through the synth engine? I'd really like to get the gt but gettin short on space. I have some new agey ambient type stuff that it seems perfect for. By the way how are the verbs in this thing for vocals?

[Jim Stout]

Originally Posted by Crandak

Jim,
Just a clarification. could I run a vocal through the vocal designer in xt then run that processed vocal through the synth engine? I'd really like to get the gt but gettin short on space. I have some new agey ambient type stuff that it seems perfect for. By the way how are the verbs in this thing for vocals?

You would have to track the vocal as audio through vocal designer into whatever DAW you are using then load the V-Synth and take it from there.

The GT is the only V-Synth that can run both engines at the same time.

The reverbs rock. They ported over from the Roland SRV reverb units.

[CHEEZYBEATS]

So the V-synth gt has the sound capabilities as the Juno-106 and Jp- 8000? What about the the modulation capabilities like the Jp 8000 with Arturia, with things like (Galaxy) modulation effects? Can it go beyond those kind of things? I already have an Access Virus TI Polar on the way but I also like the V-synth Gt, so I was trying to see if it would make sense to get both? I remember a long time ago playing the V-synth xt and the other Virus Ti (table top) at the Guitar Center in Houston and they sounded so good together, besides that would it make sense to have both? Dont try to sell me something I dont need Jim(lol) Just cause you work for them(lol)!

[crufty]

I would go GT because vocal designer is right there. With XT (if I recall) you have to reboot to access. BUT I say that because its not my $$$. That's a pure convenience factor. Take the delta and think to yourself--is it worth it?

You really can't go wrong. The xt does have issues (Zippppprrr) and the midi controllers don't work from the 8 knobs (!!!!!) on the front (WTF). But that touch screen, it's so deep, powerful and fast. Hella modulations to be sure.

Like any synth, I wouldn't say it can do jp8k or 106. It has those features sure but with the COSM fx, it is its own beast. The tech behind it is really pretty spiffy.

And it has hypersaw!