18th March 2008
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | What samplers out there are 8 bit?
I love the whole crunchy 8-bit sound. Especially on Hi-Hats..
I'm diggin the sound of my SC DrumTraks but want to get a sampler with similiar convertors so I can load in my own sounds.
I have an SP-12 but that is 12 bit. Wanna lose 4 more bits! 
BTW I don't want to use a bit-crusher, because I don't believe they produce the same results..
Jonny
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18th March 2008
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#2 | | Gear nut
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You're right, bit-crushing to me is like a different thing altogether, a different sound.
For 8-bit, maybe an Ensoniq Mirage? If you're feeling up to using hexadecimal on a 2-digit display, that is. The great sound pays off though, if you want it bad enough. |
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18th March 2008
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#3 | | Gear nut
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EMAX is some kind of 8bit. It samples at 12bits but converts it to 8 bits for storage.
It sounds great BTW!
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18th March 2008
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#4 | | Guest |
Orchestron, EMU II, Akai S-612, Ensoniq Mirage, Fairlight, Synclavier, Linn, Mellotron, Master Studio Coll., FZ-1, DSS-1.
I think most of them are 8bit
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18th March 2008
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#5 | | Guest | vemberaudio.se - shortcircuit
shortcircuit can load:RIFF/ wave-files (8/16/24/32-bit & 32-bit float, mono/stereo at any sample rate)
Also a great soft sampler !
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18th March 2008
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#6 | | Gear maniac
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Jomox 999 (and I think 888 as well) holds 8 bit samples for hihats and another 4 categories, and process these samples with VCA envolopes.
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18th March 2008
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by time ago Orchestron, EMU II, Akai S-612, Ensoniq Mirage, Fairlight, Synclavier, Linn, Mellotron, Master Studio Coll., FZ-1, DSS-1.
I think most of them are 8bit | Well,a third of them. The Orchestron and Mellotron are analog. The Synclavier and Fz-1 are 16 bit and the DSS-1 is 12 bit. The Fairlight 1 and 2 are 8 bit, the Fairlight III is 16 bit. The only Linn that could sample is the Linn 9000 and that's 12 bits IIRC.
And what is a "Master Studio Coll." ?
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18th March 2008
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#8 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Originally Posted by time ago Orchestron, EMU II, Akai S-612, Ensoniq Mirage, Fairlight, Synclavier, Linn, Mellotron, Master Studio Coll., FZ-1, DSS-1.
I think most of them are 8bit | WTF!?!?! Mis-information!!! |
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18th March 2008
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#9 | | Guest |
Sorry guys
I got the info from the back of a cd i have ( cult sampler ) so i assumed that most of the samplers mentioned where 8 bit, obviously not the case !
insert photo of nob ----> here | |
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18th March 2008
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#10 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Originally Posted by time ago Sorry guys
I got the info from the back of a cd i have ( cult sampler ) so i assumed that most of the samplers mentioned where 8 bit, obviously not the case !
insert photo of nob ----> here  | Don't worry. Nothing wrong with being wrong. I have been there! thumbsup
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18th March 2008
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Its all about the Mirage. Their amazing.
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19th March 2008
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Uh... just record 24dB quieter, then gain it up digitally by 24dB. Then you'll only use 8-bits of resolution.
Hell you could do this with a 24-bit sampler. Might hit some other problems with noise floor, but you're not looking for clean are you?
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19th March 2008
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Tibbon Uh... just record 24dB quieter, then gain it up digitally by 24dB. Then you'll only use 8-bits of resolution.
Hell you could do this with a 24-bit sampler. Might hit some other problems with noise floor, but you're not looking for clean are you? | you'd have to pass it through a cranked behringer eurorack to get the true magic out of it. |
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19th March 2008
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#14 | | Gear Head
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19th March 2008
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by jonnypowell I love the whole crunchy 8-bit sound. Especially on Hi-Hats..
I'm diggin the sound of my SC DrumTraks but want to get a sampler with similiar convertors so I can load in my own sounds.
I have an SP-12 but that is 12 bit. Wanna lose 4 more bits! 
BTW I don't want to use a bit-crusher, because I don't believe they produce the same results..
Jonny | hey Jonny,
saw your post about the mbase...and well, maybe you should consider a 888/999. The price it a bit steep but if you are already considering getting the mbase...it'd be a nice way to have all your drums in one box and be able to store patterns etc. And I'm almost sure the sound wouldn't disappoint you if you're in the 8-bit crunchy mood already...
The sampler on it is really good and the samples get a really great vibe in it. The snare and hats also sound great. it's a well thought out machine in general and definitely a good beat workstation.
just a (slutty) thought... |
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20th March 2008
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#16 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by bluemoon you'd have to pass it through a cranked behringer eurorack to get the true magic out of it.  | dont knock the eurorack! it makes for a cool distortion unit.... or if you dont need it for a track, a door stop |
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20th March 2008
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#17 | | Lives for gear
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Don't forget the Casio SK series! Both Casio SK-1 and SK-5 are 8-bit. And they are very dirty! |
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20th March 2008
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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BTW you can fill your DrumTraks with your own sounds if you want to. Get an Oberheim Prommer. I guess a modern EPROM programmer would work to if you can get the samples in the right format...
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20th March 2008
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#19 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by jonnypowell I love the whole crunchy 8-bit sound. Especially on Hi-Hats.. | Hi-hats are cool, but if you haven't tried 8-bit analog BASS samples you don't know where the real fun starts!
A cheap alternative without a sampler (but if someone already has 8-bit samples collection):
8-bit samples in 1:1 can be played on the DAW (softsamplers), but interpolation needs to be DISABLED. Then they are in 1:1 as original. From that point reproduction only depends on: 1) antialiasing filters and 2) transposition algorithms - implemented in the software which will be used.
Coincidently i've found online a huge collection of 8-bit samples from period 1988-1991 (10532 of them to be exact). Not only that i love those vintage samples from Acid House and early Techno era, but when i discovered how bass sounds @ 8 bit i was blown away.
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20th March 2008
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#20 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by SpaceShipStudio baldwin? | For the record the Baldwin is a rebadged Emax 1 sampler.
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21st March 2008
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by LNerell For the record the Baldwin is a rebadged Emax 1 sampler. |
I was gonna say...... Holy hell what a ripoff! (nice sampler though)
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