using L2 ALOT

levonvincent · 3rd March 2008, 01:28 AM

I am getting into using the L2 very subtely, but on most channels, and also squashing the shit out of my verbs and delays etc... I love the way it sounds, it's that newer uber-squashed sound that many people truly loathe- I wouldn't dare write about this technique ona standard engineer's forum, I would get so much hate mail, but with dance music there's no rules...except with regards to the mastering and going to vinyl. I have heard that limiting or using 100:1 ratios on individual tracks makes the mastering engineer's job a pain, is that true? when it comes to dance music?
Thanks,
LV

Vinja · 3rd March 2008, 02:50 AM

I strap a cracked version of L2 on every channel

Ben F · 3rd March 2008, 03:05 AM

You need dynamic range for a good vinyl master, and it will also come up much better as a CD master as well, if the mix is too squashed there is nothing to work with. The L2 sucks the low mids out of everything and is also quite harsh. Most mastering engineers steer clear of it these days, for mixing it still gets used very often, the L1 particularly for rock.

There are much better sounding software limiters out there.

sergioelectro · 3rd March 2008, 01:30 PM

Do you still have any lows after squashing all this ? ?

Sergio

anguswoodhead · 3rd March 2008, 01:52 PM

Voxengo Elephant and UAD Precision Limiter much better - not as harsh sounding.

levonvincent · 4th March 2008, 07:07 PM

Yes, I still have my lows. If anything, I might not Limit the kick and Bass. I'm not really asking about quality of limiter, just wondering about going to vinyl, maybe I should post on the Mastering forum.

cynic · 4th March 2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anguswoodhead

Voxengo Elephant and UAD Precision Limiter much better - not as harsh sounding.

word to that.....

Ben F · 5th March 2008, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by levonvincent

Yes, I still have my lows. If anything, I might not Limit the kick and Bass. I'm not really asking about quality of limiter, just wondering about going to vinyl, maybe I should post on the Mastering forum.

As long as the waveform isn't clipped you should be ok. There is no point in heavy limiting for vinyl as it won't come back any louder, just more squashed.

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3rd March 2008, 01:28 AM	#1
levonvincent Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 34	using L2 ALOT I am getting into using the L2 very subtely, but on most channels, and also squashing the shit out of my verbs and delays etc... I love the way it sounds, it's that newer uber-squashed sound that many people truly loathe- I wouldn't dare write about this technique ona standard engineer's forum, I would get so much hate mail, but with dance music there's no rules...except with regards to the mastering and going to vinyl. I have heard that limiting or using 100:1 ratios on individual tracks makes the mastering engineer's job a pain, is that true? when it comes to dance music? Thanks, LV

3rd March 2008, 03:05 AM	#3
Ben F Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 586	You need dynamic range for a good vinyl master, and it will also come up much better as a CD master as well, if the mix is too squashed there is nothing to work with. The L2 sucks the low mids out of everything and is also quite harsh. Most mastering engineers steer clear of it these days, for mixing it still gets used very often, the L1 particularly for rock. There are much better sounding software limiters out there. __________________ Myspace

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anguswoodhead Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beerwah, Queensland, Australia Posts: 551	Voxengo Elephant and UAD Precision Limiter much better - not as harsh sounding. __________________ Woodhead Studios www.woodheadstudios.com http://www.myspace.com/woodheadstudios http://www.myspace.com/trackmanmusic "When you gotta go .... you gotta go"

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3rd March 2008, 02:50 AM	#2
Vinja Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12	I strap a cracked version of L2 on every channel

3rd March 2008, 01:30 PM	#4
sergioelectro Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 264	Do you still have any lows after squashing all this ? ? Sergio

4th March 2008, 07:07 PM	#6
levonvincent Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 34	Yes, I still have my lows. If anything, I might not Limit the kick and Bass. I'm not really asking about quality of limiter, just wondering about going to vinyl, maybe I should post on the Mastering forum.