Prophet '08 Synth Module-Sweet!

[kingofswing]

I get my Prophet 08 KB tommorow Sooner than I expected.

Module vs Keyboard - I decided on the keyboard for a more completed instrument and it looks better too. I like the knobs better than the evolver ones.

[Orren]

Originally Posted by kingofswing

Module vs Keyboard - I decided on the keyboard for a more completed instrument and it looks better too. I like the knobs better than the evolver ones.

It should also be added that since the knobs can send out MIDI CCs (unlike the Evolver keyboards), the Prophet '08 keyboard also makes a damn fine MIDI controller for software instruments. For those of us that aren't analog purists, that is. ;)

Orren

[sctt_stone]

Wow the lead singer for this Ember After looks like Christopher Lamber from the high lander movies!!!

Originally Posted by Orren

It should also be added that since the knobs can send out MIDI CCs (unlike the Evolver keyboards), the Prophet '08 keyboard also makes a damn fine MIDI controller for software instruments. For those of us that aren't analog purists, that is. ;)

Orren

[Orren]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

Wow the lead singer for this Ember After looks like Christopher Lamber from the high lander movies!!!

Hehe...thanks! Although I think Chris was younger than I am now. ;)

Orren "There can be only one" Merton

[keybdwizrd]

Originally Posted by Orren

For those of us that aren't analog purists, that is. ;)

LOL. Heck, I've been using my P'08 to play my new Motif rack... I guess I am about as far away from being an analog purist as you can be!

[plaid_emu]

Originally Posted by keybdwizrd

I guess I am about as far away from being an analog purist as you can be!

I appreciate "analog". I've got a Neptune II, a POLY-61 and a desktop Evolver and that's as analog as I get.

I love that folks still have the itch to keep it alive, but I've got to give props to Morgan Sparks (R.I.P.) for reverse engineering the the Roswell crash into something useful for us slaves.

Without Bell Labs and the US government's funding we wouldn't have Absynth or a Virus!

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...19908155713626

Roswell UFO Incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Transistor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only problem is they've got the technology to build something that perfectly emulates everything from a Teletronix LA-2A to a Reaktor 5. And they can probably build it for twenty five cents.

Instead of building something like that, they'll use it to create these:

dragonfly drones - Google Search

[DivineChemical]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

I have actually thought about ordering a P08 and making a demo of my P5 next to the P08 to post here. May be a few of weeks but I plan on doing it. I am surprised no one has done that yet!

I think that it's because they really don't have much in common.

[dan p]

When you use a P5 people i know say yeah that sounds dated.I think the P5 is overated but i would still own a P8.My 2 cts.
You dont get jobs in this biz with stuff that has been done before.Most folks want something new.Its ok for the bedroom and an occasional use i think.


Dan P

[kingofswing]

Originally Posted by DivineChemical

I think that it's because they really don't have much in common.

You seem to be very protective about the gear you appear to own, though I have no problem with that. You like what you like...right?

But to bash a superb and more than capable new analog synth (being the Prophet 08) is way out of line. The fact is: Davesmith made this synth in 2007 using modern components, just as he made the Prophet 5 and others back in the day using parts of of that time / era.

Modern components lend to all sorts of changes - the result being that we have a new 8-voice poly synth here with a pure analog signal path, using analog filters and VCAs. The sound is top notch - I really don't care what you think.

Cheers

[DivineChemical]

Originally Posted by kingofswing

I really don't care what you think.

Then why did you write so many sentences in regards to what I think?

People have different opinions and that's a fact of life. If we all thought the same way, wouldn't that be boring? You can try to convince me otherwise to try and like the Prophet 08, and I may or may not do as such. Now, wouldn't that be more fun that just having the whole world run out like a mindless flock of sheep to get the Prophet 08 and try to make more Daft Punk on them so that we can all pat each other on the back and say, "That was very good, but I don't think you're using enough Alesis 3630 on there!"

[sctt_stone]

Jesus, cant we all agree to disagree and agree that they do sound different. i love the sound of the P5 but I wish it could do more cool shit like the P08. The p08 demos do not sound like the P5. the P5 has a much more aggressive sound and is darker sounding.
As for the comments about "that synths old news so no one wants to hear it" that is some ignorant ass shit. Well shit for that matter lets burn all stringed instruments and Pianos while we are at it because they have been used for a few hundred years so no one wants to hear them anymore! I have noticed that a lot of people around this forum seem to think that gear writes songs, WTF is that? If you write a unique sounding tune and use dated instruments i will be damned if it wont sound good to people. The only thing in music that sounds dated is tired ideas that all sound the same to to a lack of creativity.
For that matter every fu-kin pop-Punk song on the radio sounds the same to me. Would someone please tell them to stop whining through their noses like that and quit it with the nut hugger jeans!!!!! Oh yeah and while I am at it its so original to be a Gangsta.

[dan p]

When i reach for pads and my writing partner says try a different pad,like oberheim or mks 80 or whatever,he wants to hear something that sits in the mix in a way that the prophet doesn't,not that its bad but with 24db filters it blends in a way thats well not spread out enuff,and thats not sayin that there isn't a place for it,there are other synths that do.Bottom line is i wish i still had it.Its one color in an arsenal of synths,and i want a P8 too.Just a more updated unit with more capabilities.Now lets make music!


Dan P

[Jazzpunk]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

Jesus, cant we all agree to disagree and agree that they do sound different.

I tend to view the 08 as an intriguing alternative to the PolyEvolver rather than a direct descendant of the P5. I suspect that if Dave hadn't attached the 'Prophet' name to the '08' these types of arguments wouldn't even be happening.

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by Jazzpunk

I suspect that if Dave hadn't attached the 'Prophet' name to the '08' these types of arguments wouldn't even be happening.

Of course. But it also wouldn't have generated a fraction of the interest that it has.

[kingofswing]

The beast is here

Sound is enormous!!! Love the keyboard feel and the shiny knobs look great. Tested it, and soon to be packed away for a room change.

[dan p]

I noticed from kybrd wzrd's demos that the 08 surely sounded fat.Cant wait to demo one myself.


Dan P

[Jazzpunk]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

Of course. But it also wouldn't have generated a fraction of the interest that it has.

Perhaps the '08 would've lost a bit of marketing 'hoorah' but the release of a new analog board (especially from the likes of Dave Smith) will always generate plenty of interest!

[Pip]

08 rack in my studio - Pammy style rack Gr8

[Drone]

Originally Posted by Jazzpunk

I tend to view the 08 as an intriguing alternative to the PolyEvolver rather than a direct descendant of the P5. I suspect that if Dave hadn't attached the 'Prophet' name to the '08' these types of arguments wouldn't even be happening.

Dave Smith had said in one interview that the intention wasn't to recreate a prophet but it just sounded so similar that they decided to name it the prophet 8.

Personally I don't think it has much in common with the early prophet but in my opinion has a great sound as far as modern sound design goes.

[Igotsoul4u]

i just played with one today. It sounds sooooooooooo good. So thick. I want one. Made me want to write. Dig the overall layout. The knobs are not my favorite but thats about it. Cool piece.

[lockdown]

the knob quality could be a little better, but i'm not minding too much since it's such a good deal for the price. now gotta save up those pennies! comments on this topic makes me want to get one bad.

[kingofswing]

Originally Posted by lockdown

the knob quality could be a little better, but i'm not minding too much since it's such a good deal for the price. now gotta save up those pennies! comments on this topic makes me want to get one bad.

Hi,

Well I have only had my Prophet 08 keyboard for two days now, but I am very pleased so far with the build quality of this synth including the knobs.

On my unit, the knobs are not wobbling like the unit I tried in the store (not much mind you), which I guess was totally abused over time. The knobs on the demo unit worked perfectly though, and I really gave them a full test - cannot fault them to be honest. If you take a look at the inside pics of the PCB boards of the Prophet 08, the long plastic shafts are the reason for the slight flex on the knobs, and according to DSI they were designed to do that.

For the price, this synth is just silly fun. The sound has got me hooked to this board for hours. I have already over written about four patches with my own sounds. I love it.

[Dirty Halo]

Originally Posted by dan p

When you use a P5 people i know say yeah that sounds dated.I think the P5 is overated but i would still own a P8.My 2 cts.
You dont get jobs in this biz with stuff that has been done before.Most folks want something new.Its ok for the bedroom and an occasional use i think.


Dan P

Uh, yeah and the electric guitar is sooooo overated and soooooo yesterday

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point, but great instruments and innovations on those instruments can not be "dated." Only their application... and that's 100% up to YOU... i.e., the artist (hence the name, "artist")

-a

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by plaid_emu

I appreciate "analog". I've got a Neptune II, a POLY-61 and a desktop Evolver and that's as analog as I get.

I love that folks still have the itch to keep it alive, but I've got to give props to Morgan Sparks (R.I.P.) for reverse engineering the the Roswell crash into something useful for us slaves.

Without Bell Labs and the US government's funding we wouldn't have Absynth or a Virus!

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...19908155713626

Roswell UFO Incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Transistor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only problem is they've got the technology to build something that perfectly emulates everything from a Teletronix LA-2A to a Reaktor 5. And they can probably build it for twenty five cents.

Instead of building something like that, they'll use it to create these:

dragonfly drones - Google Search

sooooo, this would be a location recorder?

ps: look also into the advances in technology made in germany, they had a complete audio technology parallel to the americans, and at some point in time, more advanced. I'm not so sure transistors weren't invented by human beings, contrary to what a Philip Corso might have said. Fascinating topic. The machine and the writing looks akin to something from a japanese meccha anime.

[DivineChemical]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point, but great instruments and innovations on those instruments can not be "dated." Only their application... and that's 100% up to YOU... i.e., the artist (hence the name, "artist")

+1 I used to hate the MiniMoog for ages for the reasons you just stated, and then I finally sat down with one and realized that I had simply been pigeonholing it when in fact it's still got a place in the modern studio.

[dan p]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

Uh, yeah and the electric guitar is sooooo overated and soooooo yesterday

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point, but great instruments and innovations on those instruments can not be "dated." Only their application... and that's 100% up to YOU... i.e., the artist (hence the name, "artist")

-a

I always found new ways to use my synths,including the prophet5 as well as my minimoog which still gets used in my studio often.
The P5 worked great in my 80's rock band for sure and i will agree that it is 100% up to the user for creativity in the way it gets used.If you know how to program one then it never becomes dated unless you are using standard presets.
These days there is enough bad music out there that for me i like to hear tracks done with newer instruments and sounds with good arrangements to keep my interest, sometimes a combo of old and new works great.I am luvin that when it happens.Variety is the spice of life when it comes to keyboard colors .Just my opinion here.


Dan P

[Jazzpunk]

Originally Posted by DivineChemical

+1 I used to hate the MiniMoog for ages for the reasons you just stated, and then I finally sat down with one and realized that I had simply been pigeonholing it when in fact it's still got a place in the modern studio.

It almost sounds as if you're saying that actually playing an instrument for one's own self is a more elucidating experience than simply judging it from other people's opinions or from watching youtube clips? Interesting...

[DivineChemical]

Originally Posted by Jazzpunk

It almost sounds as if you're saying that actually playing an instrument for one's own self is a more elucidating experience than simply judging it from other people's opinions or from watching youtube clips? Interesting...

Oh no! Of course not. You should always judge an instrument based on the opinions of others before trusting your own judgment.

And to clarify, I had used a MiniMoog before but I hadn't actually 'sat down' with one if that makes any sense.

[dan p]

I always wondered why i could'nt get my arp odyssey to sound like a minimoog back in the late seventies.Duh,you have to have the real thing.The arp did cool things,but for soloing i found the mini was the sound that competed with guitars.The P5 also sounded fat in unison mode for soloing.I use to break those friggin contacts on the P5 and had to open her up to replace them often.I dont know for sure but my guess is modern keyboards dont have those kind of contacts to track the pitch's played,anyone know how that works with the P8,and for that matter some of the newer synths on the market?

Dan P

[Drone]

Does anyone know when these prophet 8 rack modules started shipping ?
I have a seller claiming to have had one for over a month.