For Europa owners....

[rachel]

From: J.D. McEachin
Subject: JUPITER6: Europa V2.0 Features

New features ( from Products ):

* Expanded Patch Memory

Version 2.0 increases the internal patch and preset storage by 6 times, to
a total of 288 patches and 192 presets. Each bank of 48 patches and 32
presets is accessible via the front panel or a standard MIDI Bank Select
message. The upper and lower splits can use patches from different banks
if desired.


* Multiple Undo function for Patch Editing

Unwanted changes to patches can be undone at the push of a button. Up to
127 button presses, 84 slider moves, or some intermediate combination of
the two can be undone or redone, until a patch is saved or a new patch is
selected.


* Layer Mode

Layer mode allows the upper and lower patches to be played from the
keyboard at the same time, while being edited individually or
simultaneously. In Layer mode, the lower synth has 2 voices,and the upper 4
voices.

* Keyboard Transpose

Version 2.0 allows the upper & lower splits to be transposed independently.
Held arpeggios can be transposed on the fly for many creative performance
possibilities.


* Support for Midi Song Position Pointer

The arpeggiator will start at the beginning of the next measure when a song
position pointer message is received.


Jeffrey

This is so cool!


rachel

[jonnypowell]

Originally Posted by rachel

This is so cool!


rachel

Sweet. Once I get my JP-6 back from service I think I might go down the Europe path..

[sasha222]

Unfortunately the software to do the upgrade Sysex dump is only PC or Mac OS9 at this time, no OSX.

[The_Crooked_Man]

I have a Jupiter 6 without the Europa and have been thinking about getting it for awhile, but I don't want to risk doing it myself, and the repair guys around here are awful with synths. Sasha, I see that you're in NYC, and as I'm in Philly, do you know of a good guy for this?

[teknosmoker]

Originally Posted by The_Crooked_Man

I have a Jupiter 6 without the Europa and have been thinking about getting it for awhile, but I don't want to risk doing it myself, and the repair guys around here are awful with synths.

Just take your JP-6's voice board out (very easy to do) and mail it to Synthcom to have them do the install for you. They'll replace the original battery on the Roland voice board if you'd like (if needed) as well.

-T

[sasha222]

Originally Posted by teknosmoker

Just take your JP-6's voice board out (very easy to do) and mail it to Synthcom to have them do the install for you. They'll replace the original battery on the Roland voice board if you'd like (if needed) as well.

-T

right, thats what i did. i think there are instructions on the synthcom site on how to remove it.

[waveterm]

Originally Posted by sasha222

Unfortunately the software to do the upgrade Sysex dump is only PC or Mac OS9 at this time, no OSX.

So what ? How hard is it to find a Windows-machine to do the upgrade from ?



WT

[sasha222]

Originally Posted by waveterm

So what ? How hard is it to find a Windows-machine to do the upgrade from ?



WT

I do not have access to a Windows (nor Mac OS9) computer at the present time. Thanks for your input.

[nofi]

Originally Posted by sasha222

I do not have access to a Windows (nor Mac OS9) computer at the present time. Thanks for your input.

so... you know NOBODY.... no-one at all.... no friends... no family.... no work colleagues... who has a windows machine you can take your keyboard over to, (or a laptop that can be brought to you!) and connect it up for 10 minutes just once to do a simple firmware upgrade?

That's pretty hard to believe.

I reckon you're just not trying to get it done. or, more correctly... trying to be a bloody minded OS fanatic.

[rachel]

Originally Posted by nofi

so... you know NOBODY.... no-one at all.... no friends... no family.... no work colleagues... who has a windows machine you can take your keyboard over to, (or a laptop that can be brought to you!) and connect it up for 10 minutes just once to do a simple firmware upgrade?

That's pretty hard to believe.

I reckon you're just not trying to get it done. or, more correctly... trying to be a bloody minded OS fanatic.

I am in the same position. The fact is, in my setup, I've got all my MIDI interfaces
rackmounted and boxed in, connected to my OSX Mac.

Getting someone with a Laptop is the easy part. But then you're polluting their
installation with MIDI drivers, the EFUU utility and so forth, something when I ask my
PeeCee friends they are not happy about - because it may well upset their fragile
installations. And then asking a musician with a PC laptop is even more fraught since
you're actually hassling them even more since their setups are likewise fragile.

Likewise getting something done on an OS9 setup is fraught. You need to get the correct
MIDI driver, probably install OMS (which is a proper pain) and then install the EFUU.
So getting there is an issue.

I have investigated the use of "Midibridge" which is one possible solution but I do not
think there is a version for Intel Mac, yet. MidiBridge is a driver for Mac Classic mode
that allows you to run OS 9 MIDI apps in Classic mode, but connect to the MIDI interface
under OSX. But this may have latency and other issues that could cause EFUU to fail
leaving you with a crippled Europa.

I have been discussing with people porting the Mac EFUU source code to OSX, which is
not as hard as it may seem. In fact I would do it but have very little knowledge of how to
recode for CoreMIDI. So if there are any CoreMIDI programmers on here who would
like to earn huge kudos and port EFUU source code to OSX, please let us know.
For now, there is only MidiBridge and it doesn't work on Intel OSX.


rachel

[sasha222]

Originally Posted by nofi

so... you know NOBODY.... no-one at all.... no friends... no family.... no work colleagues... who has a windows machine you can take your keyboard over to, (or a laptop that can be brought to you!) and connect it up for 10 minutes just once to do a simple firmware upgrade?

That's pretty hard to believe.

I reckon you're just not trying to get it done. or, more correctly... trying to be a bloody minded OS fanatic.

I simply pointed out the fact that OSX was not supported. That is a fact that other Jupiter users might find relevant. I am currently in a remote rural area. Accessing a PC that I can install MIDI drivers on for my MIDI interface will be difficult. And I don't want to transport my Jupiter. I will do what I have to if necessary. Simple as that.

[nofi]

I have a laptop running win XP with MIDI ports installed and working fine... I wouldn't care about putting on a simple updater program. that's not going to trash anything....

I can see someone being weird about extra MIDI drivers in a critical MIDI system, but a simple updater app? For any non-music machine, I don't see new MIDI drivers being a problem wither. And even for a music machine, you can uninstall drivers after doing the update, anyway.


Damn, now I've spent more time talking about how simple it would be, than it would have taken to just take my laptop and update someone's europa.