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| Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles
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Thread Starter | Difference in sound between LM-1 and LinnDrum? Just wondering...Is there a significant difference between the sound of the Linn LM-1 drum machine and the LinnDrum? Do they use the same samples? I know the sample rate is different between the two machines. Does it add up to much? What about the difference between the Linn 9000 and the LinnDrum -- does it have the same sound? Alex.T |
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| 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Join Date: Apr 2005
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| dunno, but i can say having used one extensively that the linndrum is one of the most horrible sounds ever created from an electronic instrument i'd pay exactly 50 pence for one |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto
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| well the linndrum don't like you either... |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle USA
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| I love what Prince did with his Linn. |
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| Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: stockholm, sweden
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| linndrums rule a ok m |
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| Lives for gear | I used to have a LinnDrum and really liked its sound. A friend of mine used to have both and kept the LM-1, he says the LinnDrum sounds weaker in comparison. |
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| oh ha ha haaaa analogbass *slaps side with mirth*.. what a witty retort used one have u? (and i dont mean listened to samples of one or heard one for a short while) hmmm, i'm not argueing with you, it's just my experience of having to use one for a year every day almost. i didnt like it. the claps are quite nice and vicious, the tam sounds like someone shaking a baby rattle, the snare has like a nanosecond decay, the toms sound like ski yogurt pots, the kik is clicky and nasty... IMO.. look, sorry ok, i just cant help thinking SOLID by ashford and Simpson |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004
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| I have all three. They sound very different to each other when using the stock sounds. The LM-1 is the shit ! It sounds freaking huge ! This is the Prince machine. Linndrum has such a polished sound. All sounds fit together. Lots of classic tracks from the eighties used this one. Linn 9000. Doesn´t sound as nice.....You must get one with a discdrive and a library. Then it becomes awesome. WT
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle USA
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| I liked how you could open up the Linn Drum and change the tuning. It's a cool drum machine IMO, but it will definitely have a dated sound.
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yeah back in 83/4. at the time just remember the choices out there were limited, so it was very dynamic for the time albeit with short sample times i preferred the dmx myself but the studio had an eprom blower we could add our own samples and often we'd also trigger simmons brains from it as was the fashion then anyways as soon as the mirage came it blew people away even tho it was lofi. i just think you might as well use the samples for it... it has a sound yes, i aint argueing with that, but i dont think it's sound is devalued by using a very good quality sample set instead arrrr, those were the days :( | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix
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The LM-1 and Linndrum share most of the same sounds! Therefore your friend is just silly. A few of them are different, such as the kick which is better on the Linndrum, and only a couple of sounds that are on one and not the other. The main advantage with the LM-1 is individual tuning of each sound vs. a universal adjustment for most of the Linndrum sounds. Not a huge difference. I'll take the Linndrum it's still the best-sounding stand-alone drum machine ever made. It fell out of favor after the mid-1980s when cheap Rolands came into vogue, not because they sounded better. | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix
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Prince still uses his LM-1s because the feel's still the best around after all this time. He substitutes the chips just because of those here and elsewhere who dismiss the stock sounds as too 80s, not because they sound bad. They sound better than most of the sounds heard now actually. | |
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| dfegad Well.....that´s just bollocks. The LM-1 and the Linndrum sounds way different. There isn´t a single sample that is identical when comparing the stock sounds that they shipped with. WT |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix
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Just applying common sense would tell you that they had a winning formula with the LM-1, then made a sleeker package with the Linndrum - would've made NO sense to change all the sounds that were well-received on the LM-1. Common sense. I'm guessing you've either lost some hearing or never had a good ear. | |
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| Well......whatever...... Guess I´ll go and compare some sounds then. fuuck you WT |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix
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| Classy; he loses then resorts to a pissing contest to try to make up for bad judgement LOL |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004
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| Troll WT |
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| Chill dude, what´s up with the attitude ? WT |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005
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| WT ...fight fight fight ![]() ![]() ![]() i love my LinnDRUM..and soon I will have LM -1 too ![]() this boxes are heroes |
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| Hell yeah ! Report back when you´ve compared these identical sounding beasts ! lol WT |
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| anyone have a .pdf of the Linndrum manual please? |
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| | #24 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004
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| Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & communities Linndrum users group. There you´ll find the manual for the machine that sounds exactly as its predecessor. WT |
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i'm going on this premise; that they arent in any way 'realistic', and yet also they dont offer much creativity if looked at in terms of them a non realistic unit but which can make plenty of sounds with layering and detuning etc i do however concede that yes they were quite a decent 'realistic' step up from a 606 or some of the more obscure boom-tish boxes of that era which were affordable, and i think it's that which gave them the rep they had at the time but which now is overated Quote:
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anyways no argument man, we're all just expressing our opinion of how they sound. | |||
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| Lives for gear | I never got on with the linn drum either BUT it does have a certain groove. The factory sounds were pretty nasty after a while I thought. Then again, I was SO HAPPY that I got my 808 from the guy who was upgrading to a linn drum .... Having said that, it was used on countless popular tracks, but I just felt you needed to really process it in thw studio to get anything out of it. I find lots of the cool prince drum tracks sound like Fairlight samples... |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix
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20 years of revisionist thinking have us believing that the Rolands that were mainly laughable facsimilies of the real deal are desirable. | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix
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The Linn did and still does do some of the best sounds out there; all through the 80s some of the sounds were considered better than most efforts at milking real drums. Any rhetoric now about the Linn's sounds has almost entirely to do with "sounding 80s", not much to do with the sounds themselves. The Rolands on the other hand never came close to the real thing, became popular due to affordability initially, and then later during their rennaisance when reverse chic came in, became in bizarre fashion desirable. Because everyone was using one, not because they sounded better than other machines. Quote:
If there were more onus on sounding realistic over the last 20 years instead of sounding like a cheesy Roland, the entire production aesthetic of the last 20 years would be quite different in various musical genres. The Rolands were for the most part a fashion statement, not a musical step forward | ||
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| Lives for gear | Well, we must disagree re the 808. It's the funkiest drum machine ever in my book. I LOVE the sound not for any retro chic but because it sounds amazing. I have used one since they were relatively new and love the groove and the sounds. Sure if you are just taking the mono out and trying to make it sound like a drummer it's going to sound crap, but ANY drum machine that tries to sound like a drummer falls short. Process the sounds and enjoy. Linn Drum? TOTAL RETRO. |
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