Hardware Synthesizers vs Software Synthesizers

[alexp]

I'm with beers on this. What a crock of shit. Can't you lot come up with anything else to wallow on about? Jesus H...




alexP

[Dirty Halo]

Originally Posted by alexp

I'm with beers on this. What a crock of shit. Can't you lot come up with anything else to wallow on about? Jesus H...




alexP

Seriously, that's all this can ever be (other than good entertainment when you rile up their "We rule the world 'cuz w love Shrillex" anger

[LotuZia]

I love these Mac and PC threads

[Rane-Ex54]

I like Turtles

[sftd]

Originally Posted by Rane-Ex54

I like Turtles

Same.



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[squatski]

Can't speak for synthesiSers (Americans it's S not Z tutt ) cause they don't interest me that much but can I just hijack the thread to say if it was software samplers vs hardware samplers, hardware wins!!

[CJ1973]

Originally Posted by squatski

(Americans it's S not Z tutt ) cause they don't interest me that much but can I just hijack...!!

So you must be an Anti-American thread Hijacker?
Agree on hardware samplers though. Mirage/sp1200/mpcs etc

[squatski]

Originally Posted by CJ1973

So you must be an Anti-American thread Hijacker?
Agree on hardware samplers though. Mirage/sp1200/mpcs etc

haha I'm not anti American at all I love you guys except for that one spelling but whatever, each to their own I guess - this is another topic anyhow.

[sftd]

If can make yoyo super big size of GOLDEN DRAGON is maybe hardware best for time of trouble and bank but grow little if for ULTIMATE WAVEFORMZ

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[twisted-space]

Originally Posted by squatski

.....if it was software samplers vs hardware samplers, hardware wins!!

Unless you want an grand piano sampled at 24 bit 96 Khz with 10 different velocities at full sustain for each key.


Then hardware samplers suck.

[zaxmalloy]

Originally Posted by Rane-Ex54

I like Turtles

Well, everyone knows a turtle is a pale comparison to a Tortoise...there's nothing like the thick shell of the....

[mrfortune]

I think the fact i can go on tour with a laptop and controller and finish a project on the road speaks volumes, theres no question hardware will always be the"best" but in an age where only "we" care it doesnt matter only the music can answer that question. Im a fan of both but the conveince of software edges out the cost and weight of hardware for me

[mattyc]

Originally Posted by mrfortune

I think the fact i can go on tour with a laptop and controller and finish a project on the road speaks volumes, theres no question hardware will always be the"best" but in an age where only "we" care it doesnt matter only the music can answer that question. Im a fan of both but the conveince of software edges out the cost and weight of hardware for me

hauling around monitors and room treatment on tour is a real pain in the ass though

[teamsterjim]

Well hardware gets used by me everynight and I have a 4U SKB with a laptop for Kontakt.
The Soniccore XITE-1, Solaris and SE-1 is all I need.'
THere's no possible way I can use Native after years of manly analog synths.
If I were forced to use Native, I would dress like Boy George and wear those long Marilyn Monroe forearm gloves. Then people would excuse the weak inferior Native kazoos that make them squint....

[sftd]

Lolz

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[tyler477]

bump

[pomegranate]

hardware synthesizer is the best !



software synthesizer is the best !








the best ....


THE BEST !!

[Disease Factory]

VSTi vs. Virtual Analog vs. Real Analog

holy shit batman

[Stefo]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

Come on, we ALL know and openly admit that software is just the gateway drug too cool analog synths.

(of course the hordes will deny deny deny... But every other day there's a post from some former softie who JUST bought his first analog synth and is gushing on how amazing it is now that he's heard it in person!)

Flame on ...Because the truth hurts.

-a

All that you see is post from some guy who is beginner and can not like and can not be amazed because he do not know what is that amazed and he look around and absorb some thing what is not amazing at all and that guy is you!! You do not like analogue synthesizers you do not know what is that

...Because the truth hurts.

[Praxisaxis]

Whah?? How'd this get bumped? Get back down. DOWN!

[atma]

Originally Posted by CJ1973

"....advantages or disadvantages in using either format in their creative environment. "... was not that the topic? lol..
my $0.02 ..

hardware: space hog, takes up power, gets dusty, needs preamps or convertors, looks great and intimidating, can brag about the 'named' synths, can be an expensive investment and maintenance, intimidate up and coming producers with words such as 'analog', can't be 'cracked' unless you drop it.

software: boring, quick work flow, saving/automation, saves space, if computer fails there goes everything, accessibility is great, Mac vs PC thing has to be dealt with, takes up 'monitor' real estate when trying to do something else on the screen, crack issue

i have to agree with the crack issue. software use does lead to crack smoking.

[Schwarzwald]

Originally Posted by atma

i have to agree with the crack issue. software use does lead to crack smoking.

I found this so funny I'm ashamed.

[ozy]

Originally Posted by LotuZia

I love these Mac and PC threads

nahhh. You still wasting time with computers?

Smartphones are the future. Computers are so 1982.

[redgly]

Hardware is better, there is no comparison, there is no cheap way to make a very good sound.

[8BitCulprit]

Originally Posted by redgly

Hardware is better, there is no comparison, there is no cheap way to make a very good sound.

This is true as you can't buy yourself talent or skill.

[redgly]

Originally Posted by 8BitCulprit

This is true as you can't buy yourself talent or skill.

[Stefo]

Originally Posted by vmachine

Most soft synths don't seem to come out of the speaker with much velocity. At the same time though, many hardware manufacturers have been perfecting their algorithms for decades.

So yesterday I was imagining the future. 10 years from now, when all these new software synth companies finally start to get really good at what they're doing, their soft synths will sound at the same level as hardware. Probably even better. I'm guessing this will be some sort of golden age for electronic music when this happens.

But the algorithms of the software synths are perfected much much more! The computer code of generated sound is with much precise calculations

[Stefo]

Originally Posted by Teknobeam

Interesting really... Most of that crap lacks inventiveness,, relies on sequencing and sonic manipulation...sans musicality, and really thin sounding. Not saying that there isn't some inherent talnet there, but it's not exaclty bernard Herman or well,,,on a much more rudimentary level,, you might want to check out John Carpenters score for :Assault on Precinct 13".....then lets talk apples and oranges

All that technic way of expression is intuitive and how much musicality have in the sonic manipulation ! it is precisely because of that just like the good old Vangelis who said
- If you want to look beyond , The cosmos! Or the micro cosmos !! That is electronic music
The result is great! Beautiful sound pictures like from untouchable nature what music paint is
And the analogue synthesizers is not a value!! It is ugly and dirty, rustic, unpresentable, repulsive and spin the heads of the people and cause headache The software synths really are better, much much better

[Stefo]

Originally Posted by djugel

well .. he has a point.. but it doesn't prove anything.

So if you want to make crap commercial music, stick with thin sounding hardware/software that will sound ok playing over a TV? Is this news to anybody?

I always thought that when I even heard V/A's for the first time... "Oh, so this is made for people who work for television?" Just my view on it all.

This gear what you mention is gear with what Mike Oldfield and Vangelis make mostly all albums from the early 90s !! Albums which are very successful with very good sound
Say it is crap for TV to the crowd of fans some time when you are feel boring And YA!! The begining of Industrial Revolution from Jean Michel Jarre with that Korg Wave Station is so unbeatable
The digital really is some thing superior

[Stefo]

Originally Posted by mattyc

OTOH you could look at it as a chance to learn from people who have been doing this a lot longer than you, and have experiences with gear you have never used.

And once again its important to remember that many old farts with a lot of obsolete old tools have a whole bunch of new tools too !!

It is not a chance to learn some thing from the past when Bob Moog create the definition of that strange machine what we call synthesizer it was just one beginning it is chance to learn from the future what yet will happen.. . how many things will become so we do not know noting about
We are not in the middle ages when the wisest people was the oldest and with the largest beards for sorrow today they are mostly gaga with pretension to be mentors
The true is not in that
And what gear we do not use? There is around 6 or 8 brands what makes analogue gear and it is no problem for every one to spend some time in some music instruments store to play for a while on a variety of different gear