problem with low tuned snare

Alexi · 10th October 2006, 01:10 AM

..... hey slutz.......my first post in the drum forum......i am a drummer and love to have a drum forum on gs.

anyways....i have got a little tuning problem over here.

I like to record really low tuned snaredrums...................

most of the times i will tune the batter head really low and the resonant head really tight...........

The lower i tune my batter head the longer the sustain of the drum gets and the snare wires keep rattling for ages.

I want to achieve a really low snare tone but with a really articulatet crack from the snare wires..........

Do you have any tips?

cheers

alex

r0ck1r0ck2 · 10th October 2006, 08:10 AM

it's too early for me to think properly....so i'll just say

crank the shit out of the snare wires?

chetatkinsdiet · 10th October 2006, 09:48 PM

that or try some different wires that don't resonate as long/much. Grover makes some that might be a little tighter sounding. I'm sure there are others. I'd look at some Puresounds or something like that to see if they have one that might fit the bill.

m

**toolskid** · 11th October 2006, 08:17 AM

1. Damp the top head

2. Tighten the snare wires

3. Choose a snare that works more how you like at lower tensions!

4. Damping the snares can help

5. Choose a less resonant batter head

Blindside · 25th October 2006, 10:35 PM

I had this problem for a while too.

I had the batter head really loose and the snare head pretty loose and the sound was low, but dead.

I had the batter head low and the snare side tight and the snares rattled. I f you tighten the snares, it deadens the sound and you lose fatness.

I found when I tightened the batter head to about "medium", and had the resonant side about medium, I could loosen the snares and not get that rattle, but still get a nice ring.

The key is finding the sweet spot for your drum. I wouldn't bother with new snares or heads (unless you're using double ply). I would just expirament for a while. When the top head is too loose while the res. head is too tight, the snares seem to rattle more for some reason. Something probably having to do with air flow.

For a fat sound ALWAYS have the snares at least somewhat loose.

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10th October 2006, 01:10 AM	#1
Alexi Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamburg Posts: 1,064	problem with low tuned snare ..... hey slutz.......my first post in the drum forum......i am a drummer and love to have a drum forum on gs. anyways....i have got a little tuning problem over here. I like to record really low tuned snaredrums................... most of the times i will tune the batter head really low and the resonant head really tight........... The lower i tune my batter head the longer the sustain of the drum gets and the snare wires keep rattling for ages. I want to achieve a really low snare tone but with a really articulatet crack from the snare wires.......... Do you have any tips? cheers alex __________________ Vintage 19th and 20th century physics is fun! Karl

11th October 2006, 08:17 AM	#4
toolskid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: london Posts: 2,123	1. Damp the top head 2. Tighten the snare wires 3. Choose a snare that works more how you like at lower tensions! 4. Damping the snares can help 5. Choose a less resonant batter head __________________ Emre Ramazanoglu http://www.emremusic.com the wise man can pick up a grain of sand and envision the whole universe. The fool, however, will just lie down on some seaweed and roll around until he's completely draped in it. Then he'll stand up and go "Hey, I'm vine man"

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10th October 2006, 08:10 AM	#2
r0ck1r0ck2 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Barcelona!! Posts: 1,459	it's too early for me to think properly....so i'll just say crank the shit out of the snare wires?

10th October 2006, 09:48 PM	#3
chetatkinsdiet Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,473	that or try some different wires that don't resonate as long/much. Grover makes some that might be a little tighter sounding. I'm sure there are others. I'd look at some Puresounds or something like that to see if they have one that might fit the bill. m

25th October 2006, 10:35 PM	#5
Blindside Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 483	I had this problem for a while too. I had the batter head really loose and the snare head pretty loose and the sound was low, but dead. I had the batter head low and the snare side tight and the snares rattled. I f you tighten the snares, it deadens the sound and you lose fatness. I found when I tightened the batter head to about "medium", and had the resonant side about medium, I could loosen the snares and not get that rattle, but still get a nice ring. The key is finding the sweet spot for your drum. I wouldn't bother with new snares or heads (unless you're using double ply). I would just expirament for a while. When the top head is too loose while the res. head is too tight, the snares seem to rattle more for some reason. Something probably having to do with air flow. For a fat sound ALWAYS have the snares at least somewhat loose.