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Old 1st June 2012   #1
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I am curious what famous classic rock records/bands used click tracks and what new bands do not use them. Do you think most of the early 90's rock bands were using them, when did it become the norm?
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Im sure all the drummers did.
After the drums were tracked then he was the click track.
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Clicks started to become the norm in the early 80's, especially because of the integration of midi programmed parts and computers in most recorded music.
The first couple of Coldplay albums drift around timewise, so they appear to be tracked without click to me.
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I don't know what year this was, but you can clearly hear the click track.




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Try tempo mapping a click track to the original version of Supertramp's The Logical Song.

(...one of the most heavily rotated radio hits of all time).



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Butch Vig said most of Siamese Dream was done without click. Same for AFI's album Sing the Sorrow he did. And Mellon Collie & Infinite Sadness clearly has many unclicked songs. Coldplay's Parachutes has mostly unclicked songs too.

Those are some off the top of my head.
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very interesting......so Harrison totally has a click
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I don't know what year this was, but you can clearly hear the click track.




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Not so sure. Sounds more like a tapping foot. Notice that it's not there until he says 2 3 4 and the first 2 beats are a little faster than the rest, just like the count in. There's no way he could have said 2 at the same time as the first beat of the click. Also notice that there's no click bleed on the vocal track, only with the guitar which would have been the first track and he most likely tapped his foot while playing it. They did use a metronome at times to mark out empty space to be filled later (a day in the life), but not convinced on this one.
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Not 100% sure, but I seem to remember reading that Danny Carey from Tool doesn't use a click.

And, of course, I'm pretty sure Meg White doesn't either.
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There was an article in one of the recording mags (I'm fairly sure it was SOS) that pointed to the website of an ongoing college study that analyzed pop tunes from the past several decades and mapped the tempos. The idea was to see which drummers had the best time, who used a click, etc.

I can't remember the site, unfortunately, but maybe someone does and can link it here?
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I think you might mean this:

In Search Of The Click Track

and he has a new one

Revisiting The Click Track


Out of curiosity I have checked by importing a song into my DAW, copying exactly one measure near the beginning of the tune and seeing how it lays across other one-measure sections later in the tune.

If the band is not using a click it is often very obvious.

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I think you might mean this:

In Search Of The Click Track

and he has a new one

Revisiting The Click Track


Out of curiosity I have checked by importing a song into my DAW, copying exactly one measure near the beginning of the tune and seeing how it lays across other one-measure sections later in the tune.

If the band is not using a click it is often very obvious.

That's similar but not the same. The database in SOS allowed you to perform a search by drummer, song, or band, and it would create a table (similar to those above) then analyze tempo deviations and comment on how close the drummer was to a "human drum machine" (or some other similar wording).

It also allowed users to upload songs for analysis. It was part of a university study; probably an English one considering the mag that featured it was SOS.

EDIT: shoot, you're right. I think the site you linked is affiliated with the one I was thinking of. Here's the link to the one from SOS:

http://labs.echonest.com/click/
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Not what we traditionally think of as a click, but some older pop songs were done over a loop, which has the same effect of enforcing a tempo. A cheaper way of tracking down some new pop group than spending days or bringing in a whole wrecking crew.
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Very cool stuff, any Black Keys Fans?? I assume "Tighten up" are sampled drums....they do not have the song on the list
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That is one of the greatest things I've seen. Thank you for posting it.

The system does not do a perfect job but it does a very good job. It would take hours to map each song out manually.

That said, there are a lot of songs that return errors and other songs that aren't included. Does anyone know if it is possible to run the processing offline or upload new songs for processing?
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That said, there are a lot of songs that return errors and other songs that aren't included. Does anyone know if it is possible to run the processing offline or upload new songs for processing?
Never mind. Found it! Will try tomorrow...

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Very cool stuff, any Black Keys Fans??
I saw a video recently of them performing on the BBC. I was entertained so I bought their first album. I hate it. I mean I hate it. I actually liked the way the singer sang live but I hated the way he sings on record. I should have known by the picture on the back cover. I've never heard good music come from nerdy art school wanna be types who are more concerned about what sweater vest and black rimmed classes to wear than actually writing good music.

Edit: I actually feel a little bad about saying what I said. Everybody has to figure out who they are and people play different roles until they feel comfortable with themselves. I just despise the nerdy art school/50s/60s get up/ wanna look and sound like a shitty band from 1967 thing.
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