Can someone please help me find out what this snare is ?

Jaay · 1st October 2011

i got this many years ago at a trash and treasure but i dont know what it is :(
i have the rest of the nuts and bolts but there not on there atm.

id like to know the value or anything really

millsbomb · 1st October 2011

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Originally Posted by Jaay

i got this many years ago at a trash and treasure but i dont know what it is :(
i have the rest of the nuts and bolts but there not on there atm.

id like to know the value or anything really

The snare strainer looks a lot like a Noble & Cooley, if the drum is made from a single steam-bent piece of wood (can't see from photo) then I'd bet that's what is is. As for value, the sky's the limit.... vintage N&C's go for BIG money. Good luck!

biggator6 · 1st October 2011

Those lugs don't look like any N&C I've ever seen.. and while the mechanism is similar - the throw looks completely different.

Look at the bearing edge - can you see plies? If it IS somehow a steambent, you've got a likely treasure. Either way, even if it's asian firewood (drummer code for 'cheap import drums') - it may clean up and sound good.

ivmike · 1st October 2011

That looks like an older Premier snare drum (or possibly and Olympic, also made by Premier). The hardware looks similar to mine:

Are the tuning lugs slotted, rather than four-sided?

ivmike · 1st October 2011

Update - upon further inspection, that is a Premier snare drum; it's missing the parallel snare parts (in the pictures) and it's essentially a wooden version of my chrome snare (pictured above).

They are great snare drums; it would be a fun restoration!

Jaay · 2nd October 2011

Yeah they are slotted like, asif you would tune them with a screw driver ? if that is what you mean ?

ivmike · 2nd October 2011

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Originally Posted by Jaay

Yeah they are slotted like, asif you would tune them with a screw driver ? if that is what you mean ?

Yes - you own a Premier Snare drum from the 70s.

Jaay · 2nd October 2011

How much could i get for it if i restore it ?

biggator6 · 2nd October 2011

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Originally Posted by Jaay

How much could i get for it if i restore it ?

Probably not a ton.. but I bet it will sound great.

Don't use a screwdriver - they make tuning keys for those slotted rods. A screwdriver will likely strip/break them (trust me).

Old Premier parts can be tricky to find. There's a guy in the UK who has tons of them.. but he's in the UK, so shipping can be difficult. In the US, ask over at drumforum.org or pressroll.net.. someone probably has the parts (I restored a Black Shadow with a parallel strainer)

chrisso · 3rd October 2011

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Originally Posted by millsbomb

The snare strainer looks a lot like a Noble & Cooley, if the drum is made from a single steam-bent piece of wood (can't see from photo) then I'd bet that's what is is. As for value, the sky's the limit.... vintage N&C's go for BIG money. Good luck!

Never in a million years. The strainer is nothing like the Cooley's either. tutt
The only 'vintage' N&C is post mid-1980's and even those don't fetch serious money. Generally about the same or less than a new one.

chrisso · 3rd October 2011

+1 on Biggator and ivmike. These era Premier drums can be difficult to restore, but can sound excellent. They aren't worth a great deal however.

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Jaay Gear interested Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3 Thread Starter	Can someone please help me find out what this snare is ? i got this many years ago at a trash and treasure but i dont know what it is :( i have the rest of the nuts and bolts but there not on there atm. id like to know the value or anything really Attached Thumbnails

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biggator6 Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,979	Those lugs don't look like any N&C I've ever seen.. and while the mechanism is similar - the throw looks completely different. Look at the bearing edge - can you see plies? If it IS somehow a steambent, you've got a likely treasure. Either way, even if it's asian firewood (drummer code for 'cheap import drums') - it may clean up and sound good. __________________ "Seriously, there's a certain kind of creative inspiration that can come from exploring the outer limits of a musical instrument. Now days the limits are so vast that it can be difficult to set boundaries." --spargee

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ivmike Lives for gear Joined: May 2008 Location: Second Largest French City Posts: 851 3 Reviews written	Update - upon further inspection, that is a Premier snare drum; it's missing the parallel snare parts (in the pictures) and it's essentially a wooden version of my chrome snare (pictured above). They are great snare drums; it would be a fun restoration!

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Jaay Gear interested Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3 Thread Starter	Yeah they are slotted like, asif you would tune them with a screw driver ? if that is what you mean ?

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chrisso Gear Guru Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Oz Posts: 16,836	+1 on Biggator and ivmike. These era Premier drums can be difficult to restore, but can sound excellent. They aren't worth a great deal however.