Cymbals!

Nu-tra · 22nd March 2006

HEy guys,

I have a 16 inch medium thin and 18 inch medium thin zildjian standard A. I like the pitch difference between the two but the 16 seems to be way lower in volume than the 18. Should I go 16 in medium in weight? I guess it's all subjective due to how every cymbal sounds different. I'm trying to get a good balance between my pre and mic placement. No matter what stereo pair I put up the 16 seems lower in volume. Gain setting are identical on both pres. I dont want to bring up the gain because my snare will come up with it cand totally pull it to one side of my mix.

Any advice will be appreciated.

V

moon_unit · 22nd March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nu-tra

No matter what stereo pair I put up the 16 seems lower in volume. Gain setting are identical on both pres. I dont want to bring up the gain because my snare will come up with it cand totally pull it to one side of my mix.

Any advice will be appreciated.

Hit it harder.

blackcatdigi · 22nd March 2006

Align the OH mics and cymbals so that the 16" is closer to the mic(s) than the 18".

IOW, raise the 16" and lower the 18". As for the snare, as long as the mics are the same distance from the point-of-impact on the snare, the placement height won't affect the center image.

Nu-tra · 22nd March 2006

oh ok thanks! I thought the cymbal had to be the same height as well.

V

junior · 22nd March 2006

... or you could try a thicker weight 17-18" cymbal in place of the 16" medium thin: comparable pitch + more volume.

imo, the 18" A med thin plays well with the 18" A rock crash. try a few to see what you think...

Nu-tra · 22nd March 2006

HAHA I would never do that it sounds like shit.

V

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labs

Please - dont hit the cymbals harder...

Gustav

aetucker1 · 22nd March 2006

medium weight will be louder, but could also not be what you are wanting tone wise. I LOVE the zildjian A custom series...every cymbal in that group sounds amazing. and if you think those are too thin, get the A custom projection crashes. still great sounding, but a little thicker.

Nu-tra · 23rd March 2006

I was thinking of getting a 16 and 18 A custom. I will probably have the same problem with volume no?

junior · 10th October 2006

afaik, thicker cymbals are higher pitched and bigger cymbals are generally louder. choose accordingly.

22nd March 2006	#1
Nu-tra Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,305 Thread Starter	Cymbals! HEy guys, I have a 16 inch medium thin and 18 inch medium thin zildjian standard A. I like the pitch difference between the two but the 16 seems to be way lower in volume than the 18. Should I go 16 in medium in weight? I guess it's all subjective due to how every cymbal sounds different. I'm trying to get a good balance between my pre and mic placement. No matter what stereo pair I put up the 16 seems lower in volume. Gain setting are identical on both pres. I dont want to bring up the gain because my snare will come up with it cand totally pull it to one side of my mix. Any advice will be appreciated. V

22nd March 2006	#3
blackcatdigi Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: upstate, sc Posts: 1,739	Align the OH mics and cymbals so that the 16" is closer to the mic(s) than the 18". IOW, raise the 16" and lower the 18". As for the snare, as long as the mics are the same distance from the point-of-impact on the snare, the placement height won't affect the center image. __________________ Sincerely, Casey SC Digital Services Bob Olhsson wrote on 17th September 2002, 12:56 PM: "Music is being used to sort consumers rather than to entertain people."

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junior Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,077	... or you could try a thicker weight 17-18" cymbal in place of the 16" medium thin: comparable pitch + more volume. imo, the 18" A med thin plays well with the 18" A rock crash. try a few to see what you think... __________________ "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep"... --Scott Adams

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aetucker1 Gear maniac Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 212	medium weight will be louder, but could also not be what you are wanting tone wise. I LOVE the zildjian A custom series...every cymbal in that group sounds amazing. and if you think those are too thin, get the A custom projection crashes. still great sounding, but a little thicker.

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