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7th July 2011
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| Gear maniac  Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Eastleigh, UK
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Thread Starter | Best snare for jazz/blues NOT rock!
Hi Guys, I need to buy a snare for a project I'm doing and not being a drummer myself, need some help on what to get. I'm generally after quite a soft sounding snare that sounds good using sticks and brushes, I'm thinking more of a trad jazz sound. Any info on the best size, model and skins for the job would be mucho appreciated! Cheers, Stu Posted via the Gearslutz iPhone app
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7th July 2011
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL USA
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I would start with a 14 by 5 maple shell with tight heads, but 95% will be the player.
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7th July 2011
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| Gear nut Joined: Oct 2006
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I'd go for a 14" hammered brass or bronze snare, ex. Ludwig LB series (Bill Stewart uses a LB552KT or LB417KT) or Gretsch. These can be quite expensive, depends on your investment plans. Maybe you can try them out or rent one of these and see if you like it! Another great snare is the Roy Haynes model by Yamaha, 14" x 5½" hammered copper. Softness must be provided by the player with proper light sticks and touch. Remo Fiberskin FD for fuller sound, great brushes sound and controlled overtones. |
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7th July 2011
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| 70% coffee & 30% beer  Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA
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I am a big fan of the vintage Rogers/Slingerland/Gretsch sound. Jay's Rogers kit has a metal snare drum that sounds kind-of-like a wood drum to me. I have a 70's wood Gretsch snare that has a "fat/woolly/thick/mid heavy" type of sound that I love personally. Though I don't like TOO MUCH OF One sound, [have a few snares for different sounds] so its gotta be well rounded, but something that inspires. I find I like "heavy/warm/thick/thuddy" types of sounds, and I like to play the kit quiet. To me the golden egg is when you play quiet and the tone gets more magical. So, you have a range to work with. Not so much of a fan of the "edgy/bright/with no impact"....
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7th July 2011
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| Gear addict  Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Winterthur, Switzerland
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As your from the UK I'd look for a vintage Premier Royal Ace. I own one of these and it's my fav for jazz and 50ies rock'n'roll etc.
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7th July 2011
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| Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2010
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Since we posted the same question at the same time I'll just watch this. I've done some research. Paul English Willie nelsons drummer who only plays a snare (yeah just a snare) with brushes. Says he likes chrome rogers 14x5 dynasonics. I would say that's a good endorsement. The guy has made his living for 50 years playing a snare with brushes.
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7th July 2011
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| Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2010
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Well I found a 1960s red sparkle grestch round badge with new fiberskyn heads for $280.00. I think I'm gonna go get it tomorrow. What do you think of those
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8th July 2011
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check out this jazz quartet recording - the snare is a Ludwig supraphonic - for brushwork, new heads help a lot since there's more interaction between brush and skin. but it can be all up to the drummer.
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA
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8th July 2011
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| Gear maniac Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Oregon City
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Pick up a Ludwig Acrolite, coated ambassador over hazy ambassador or diplomat, get some quality wires like Canopus Vintage or Puresound Custom and voila. And you'll use it for so much more than just jazz as well.  |
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11th July 2011
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| Gear nut  Joined: Jan 2009
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Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute seem to be a popular choice of many top jazz players and because of its thin shell does not necessarily work well for heavy hitters but there are many snares that work for jazz/pop/rock depending on heads, tuning and how you play them.
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Dec 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA
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15th July 2011
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, TX
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+1 on the Acrolite. The most versatile snare $100 can buy. For straight jazz, I like 50s/60s student models made by Slingerland/Gretsch/Ludwig/Rogers. They have very thin shells, and often only six lugs. They usually sound perfect for jazz with ambassadors. |
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4th September 2011
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| 500 series nutjob  Joined: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; )
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another + on the Acrolite. also love the maple shell with tight heads and yep, a lot of it will the player.
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