Originally Posted by joeq
I disagree that it is "just like" acoustic vs. electric guitar.
electric guitar is still a vibrating string manipulated by the human hand - amplified and processed, but still a physical object vibrating and thus capable of 'expression'.
electronic drums are sampled - they are triggered digital playback of pre-recorded sound. You can hit them hard and you can hit them soft, but you can not 'caress' them and you can not 'crush' them.
If you mic'ed up a drum kit and maybe put effects on the channels, THAT would analogous to an electric guitar.
Acoustic vs Electric guitar would be more like a Steinway (with its strings and sounding board) vs a Fender Rhodes (with its tines and pickups.) Both have physical vibration at their core. You could grab the string or tine and choke it off, you could dangle a paper clip on it and make it buzz.
A sampled Piano (or a sampled Rhodes) is a 'third' thing, it is what it is, and that is the analog of a digital drum set.
Hey, Joe. Since it's my post you are referring to here, let me re-post it with an edit relevant to my point as I meant it which is as it applies to me
, not the science behind vibrating strings, acoustics or electronics, or what anyone else feels they need to be capable of expression specifically :-) I'm not referring to whether or not an electronic drum kit can sound and feel exactly like an acoustic kit.
Just like acoustic vs. electric guitar, I play both types of drums because I can do things with each that I can't with the other.
New post 2 with edit showing what I meant by the above:
Just like acoustic vs. electric guitar, I play both types of guitars because I can do things with each that I can't with the other.
Both are tools of expression for me and some others. I can do things on each, some of which cannot be done equally well on the other. Just know that not all e-drum configs are sample based and not all try to sound like drums in a traditional sense. On my acoustic drums I cannot use a sustain, cv, and pitch bend pedal to play chords and modulate keys while playing rudiment based rhythms, crossfade between sounds on one drum or the whole kit as I play, have sounds get octaves lower in pitch with velocity in the same location, change oscillators with each hit in defined or random cycles, etc. That said, there are SO many things I can do on acoustic that I can't on e-drums. I don't complain about either not being the other just like I don't complain about my guitars. I just use what I need for the job. I could go on about the comparisons of acoustic and electric guitar and drum pads, contact mics/piezo triggers on acoustic drums, e-drums with acoustic heads, hybrids, analog sound sources and sample based (or not) digital ones but I'm really not wanting to come across combative or mad or heck, anything stressed, because I'm FAR from it. I just love both and thought I'd mention it.
In the spirit of an internet forum, I figured I'd reply for the fun of it!
Acoustic or electronic drums can be expressive to a "real drummer" in some ways that are similar (rhythms, groove, etc.) and others that are not. A mixing engineer is still a mixing engineer whether mixing analog or digital in my world :-) Vibrations, magnetic media, ones and zeros, faders or a mouse may make a person adjust the parameters of expression but expression happens in some way. Some feel one is more expressive than the other. Great!! Do it how you do it.