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what brand and what size of a snare can sound like Bon Jovi snare sound???

Hi, i am new here. i would like to learn from you guys.
i wanna buy a snare which can sound similar to what bon jovi tune sounds like.
i am looking for a cheaper one.
how should i tune it to get that rock snare sound??
how does pumping compression works to get a rock snare sound??
what mic would be recommended? what placement?
how important does a room mic for rock sound?

is that a big question??? i don't even know if i post to a right place.
but thank you for spend time on here!!!

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prolly use lots of sample enhancement and a sm57
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Pearl makes a signature series Tico Torres model snare.
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Originally Posted by saikit_2003
Hi, i am new here. i would like to learn from you guys.
i wanna buy a snare which can sound similar to what bon jovi tune sounds like.
i am looking for a cheaper one.
how should i tune it to get that rock snare sound??
how does pumping compression works to get a rock snare sound??
what mic would be recommended? what placement?
how important does a room mic for rock sound?

is that a big question??? i don't even know if i post to a right place.
but thank you for spend time on here!!!

kit
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Those guys use alot's of rental gear from drum doctors and drum paradise,
and most of those guys use the obvious gear, ( like the ludwig and singerland vintage)
but groups like bon jovi and that kind of 80's bubble rock, any 6x14 wood snare tune
low will work............


Now get your hair grow, and twirl your drumstick...and you got the gig.......LOL
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Pearl makes a signature series Tico Torres model snare.

Tuned right it's an absolute motherfukker!! [in other less obvious situations than just Bon Jovi-esque applications]
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Hi, i am new here. i would like to learn from you guys.
i wanna buy a snare which can sound similar to what bon jovi tune sounds like.
i am looking for a cheaper one.
how should i tune it to get that rock snare sound??
how does pumping compression works to get a rock snare sound??
what mic would be recommended? what placement?
how important does a room mic for rock sound?

is that a big question??? i don't even know if i post to a right place.
but thank you for spend time on here!!!

kit
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Something big and metal should give you that bangy rock sound.
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Who cares... lol

Go for a Steely Dan snare sound!
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Tuned right it's an absolute motherfukker!! [in other less obvious situations than just Bon Jovi-esque applications]
Sure is fletcher. I have one as well as the Steve Ferone. 2 secret weapons for me.
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Quote: "Go for a Steely Dan snare sound!"

Yeah...that's the ticket. Just sample a cat sneeze.
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great

first, thank you guys!!!
would u give a little more about tuning the snare to get rock sound?

and i don't know how pumping compression works to get snare sound......

one last thing.....how can i increase or decrease the sustain of the snare?
any plug-in helps?


thx....
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and i don't know how pumping compression works to get snare sound......

one last thing.....how can i increase or decrease the sustain of the snare?
any plug-in helps?

Hi

Compression helps level out the dynamic range of the hits a bit; making sure that the peaks are consistent, making it easier to set a consistent level for the snare in the mix.

Increase sustain with reverb, decrease it with a gate

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one last thing.....how can i increase or decrease the sustain of the snare?
any plug-in helps?
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Quote: "Go for a Steely Dan snare sound!"

Yeah...that's the ticket. Just sample a cat sneeze.
LOL.. that's funny!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


I love Steely Dan but the sound on their latest cd's as well as the solo albums is quite tiny.

Sorry about the drifting from subject.
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well it's a crisp, sharp, punchy excelent cat sneeze...

now where did they find that cat? what do you usually mike a cat with?

who cares about the sound.. for bonjovi, just get the hair and makeup done... and practice the twirling sticks and using spandex pants....
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Tuned right it's an absolute motherfukker!! [in other less obvious situations than just Bon Jovi-esque applications]

A truly amazing snare. Love it.
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Hi, i am new here. i would like to learn from you guys.
i wanna buy a snare which can sound similar to what bon jovi tune sounds like.
i am looking for a cheaper one.
how should i tune it to get that rock snare sound??
how does pumping compression works to get a rock snare sound??
what mic would be recommended? what placement?
how important does a room mic for rock sound?

is that a big question??? i don't even know if i post to a right place.
but thank you for spend time on here!!!

kit
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I think a lot of that 80s drum sound you're after is in the production - the reverb.

Play around with plate and room presets on an old Lexicon, should get you close.

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Quote: "Go for a Steely Dan snare sound!"

Yeah...that's the ticket. Just sample a cat sneeze.
Haa Tooooo Funny!
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Pearl makes a signature series Tico Torres model snare.
I got one of the 'older' Pearl floater snares....it's NOT the Torres sig model, but it ROCKS! They have the full floater shells, so you can change out different types of shells by removing the top head, rim, etc. They look the same to me as the Tico Torres Sig model....but hey, what do I know?

It's a VERY heavy built drum, and you can get them for ALOT less on Ebay (the 'regular' ones).

It's my second favorite snare for recording. (my first is a 'vintage' Ludwig Suphraphonic)
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I was in Philadelphia doing a production in a studio close after their Keep the faith sessions and i remember they used a lot For8,Foreight,Forat ?? don't know how to write it correct, but that thing looked like a 19' Rack Unit with 8 Upright channels of little individual samplers samplers for each track.And as i remeber the samples where pretty close to what has made it to the record.
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His older CDs i have no clue and they were kool, the latest album ? who in the hell cares, i turn that crap off, so i have not had a chance to hear what his snare even sounds like, his music is SO bad, " I t Gives Music a BAD name " LOL
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I was in Philadelphia doing a production in a studio close after their Keep the faith sessions and i remember they used a lot For8,Foreight,Forat ?? don't know how to write it correct, but that thing looked like a 19' Rack Unit with 8 Upright channels of little individual samplers samplers for each track.And as i remeber the samples where pretty close to what has made it to the record.
That would be the Forat F-16:

http://www.forat.com/sampler/

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I got one of the 'older' Pearl floater snares....it's NOT the Torres sig model, but it ROCKS! They have the full floater shells, so you can change out different types of shells by removing the top head, rim, etc. They look the same to me as the Tico Torres Sig model....but hey, what do I know?
The Tico drum is just a steel shelled free floater. I have several different sizes and shells of the free floaters, they all kick ass.
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