monster bass drums

[Jax]

Had to laugh when I saw this:



I wonder how long it takes for the initial hit to get out of that tunnel, or if it ever does. lol

[biggator6]

It's funny that those are back in style. There's a shop in Ft. Lauderdale called 'resurrection drums' that had their own line back in the 80's hair metal days called 'kill on command' drums.. they made ridiculously long bass drums like that.

[drmmrboy]

This thread is in clear violation of the M-word trademark. Please, cease and desist.. Or at least change the title of this thread..

[StereoAtLast]

I have a friend with a custom 22"x22" kick.

one of the best sounding drums I've ever heard.

don't talk shit about something you've never sat behind...

[Jax]

It looks ridiculous. Didn't know you weren't there when I sat behind a 20x24 and laughed... I thought EVERYBODY saw me!

It sounded ok-ish but the note was nowhere near fast enough to be useful. I'll take a 24x18 or x16 any day, if the diameter come before width. NOT like the thing above.

[Goliath|Audio]

Yamaha has one that is like that only a 16". It is a different sound. That is what it is all about.

[biggator6]

Originally Posted by StereoAtLast

I have a friend with a custom 22"x22" kick.

one of the best sounding drums I've ever heard.

don't talk shit about something you've never sat behind...

wow, a little touchy? I've sat behind (and had to mic up) several of those things.. I've heard a couple that sound good and some not so good.. (So, now do I have permission to talk shit?) they also take a heavy foot to move that much air.

All the old Ludwig/Rogers/etc kits that people love to record so much - pretty much all 14" deep with an occasional 16".

[mikethedrummer]

tommy lee doesnt have shit on precision drums lol
have you seen their 50 ply snare? =0

[Dr. Mordo]

Yeah, most of the classic recordings that we use as reference have BDs that are 14" or 16" deep. So why do we need BDs almost twice as deep? Drum depth has far less effect than diameter, so I'm not sure why people keep thinking this is a good idea.

[biggator6]

Originally Posted by Dr. Mordo

Yeah, most of the classic recordings that we use as reference have BDs that are 14" or 16" deep. So why do we need BDs almost twice as deep? Drum depth has far less effect than diameter, so I'm not sure why people keep thinking this is a good idea.

Because they look cool, I guess. Lets face it, most of the people who would use one will likely trigger the drum anyway - so it doesn't need to sound great.

[Knastratt]

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by Goliath|Audio

Yamaha has one that is like that only a 16". It is a different sound. That is what it is all about.

Yeah- I had to mike up a 22 x 20 - was initially woofy sounding. Took front skin off- dried and tightened up a bit. Did not have right mike stand to get E602 deep enough into right position. Had to use right pre and eq in tracking to cut down mud and used a fet on tracking to tighten the ball. More eq using diff eq in mix. Despite all the frigging a pretty cool kick in the end but.

GJ
NEwcastle/OZ

[drmmrboy]

Originally Posted by Knastratt

Is that a wind sock? Maybe to aid with takeoffs & landings..??

Originally Posted by Dr. Mordo

Yeah, most of the classic recordings that we use as reference have BDs that are 14" or 16" deep. So why do we need BDs almost twice as deep? Drum depth has far less effect than diameter, so I'm not sure why people keep thinking this is a good idea.

So it sounds twice as good? Or dare I say, twice as classic..

[cgarges]

Ah, North...

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

[Grumblefoot]

Originally Posted by StereoAtLast

I have a friend with a custom 22"x22" kick.

one of the best sounding drums I've ever heard.

don't talk shit about something you've never sat behind...

It happens to be a matter of physics. The more depth the more air you have to push to get the note to sound. Deeper drums do produce a bit of a deeper tone. However, there comes a point of diminishing return.

[Nutmeg II.]

Diameter defines the pitch, so does the tension of the heads.
The lenght does something more like a EQ.

[dan_zero]

Originally Posted by Nutmeg II.

Diameter defines the pitch, so does the tension of the heads.
The lenght does something more like a EQ.

i think length also has a part to play in potential maximum volume too.

i remember my old drum teacher was once upon a time endorsed by Premier drums, and he had 2 kits, the Club Artist Birch and the Genesta.

the CAB was 20"x8" and the Genesta was 20"x18".
the CAB was a really tight sounding durm, great for jazz and weddings, but with the same heads on, could produce a very similar tone/pitch to the Genesta. the difference, the bigger drum had about 75% more volume, and more "wood sound" then just "skin sound", ie, more low mid and bass.

ofcourse when you are hitting the CAB hard enough to compete with the bigger bass drum, you loose the essence of it... a funky drum that should ring out more like a weird 20" shallow tom, then a rock and roll drum.

[Dr. Mordo]

I'm willing to bet that the CAB was quieter because it lacked all the low end that the deeper BD had. I have a 26x16 and a 28x14, and the 26 is louder and much bassier than the 28x14. An 8 inch deep BD would be all midrange attack.

[Nutmeg II.]

The shells depth defines the frequency of the "EQ".
So the deeper shell did put the frequency closer to the fundamental of the drum heads, which will result in a boost of the volume.

[biggator6]

So, if you take a 22x22 kick.. and then stick a kickport in it. Can you play hip-hop and leave the 808 at home? If I play live in the back of a car, will I rattle the trunk? Because that would be cool.
"-)

[Nutmeg II.]

Originally Posted by biggator6

So, if you take a 22x22 kick.. and then stick a kickport in it. Can you play hip-hop and leave the 808 at home? If I play live in the back of a car, will I rattle the trunk? Because that would be cool.
"-)

I would take a 20x16 for the 808 sound.
You need to tune it tighter, for more tone and keep the heads unmuffled.

[audioboffin]

I have a one off 20" x 28" kick (20" diameter, 28" deep) that was single headed when I got it in the early 90's - it had been a display in a drum shop. I put hardware on the front and cut a bearing edge before heading it up. Initially I preferred it single headed, but after experimenting with muffling and head combinations I finally got it working. Got left behind in a studio that changed hands, not sure what has happened to "the harbour tunnel".

[PhilR]

I play a 22x16" kick which was made in the early 80's. It looks oddly short compared to modern drums. But it sounds great, it has a nice controlled "sub bass" resonance to it.